Tank dps harrasment

[Tracewood]

Practice changing stances. I'm going to use PLD as an example.

If your healer is bad and can't keep you topped, stuck with shield oath. If your healer calls you bad, call them out on it. Don't be afraid to call out the loud mouths.

If your DPS are bad, taking forever to down trash, go sword oath. The more DPS you do the more emnity you can generate.

I've seen tanks pull in DPS for that burst of emnity, then go into tank stance while getting all the hate and having to go back to DPS stance every so often. But if your healer is having trouble topping you off stick to tanks stance. It's not your fault they can't do their jobs.

[HazyAssaulter]

Another thing, I NEVER said that I was not attempting to get better I only stated that I am tired of getting kicked out of or not even given a chance to do random casual content because of a bad log on a site that I do not use (and barely understand or have time to fool with).

Your earlier attitude spoke for you. Your thread was not a question of how to improve. You never sought any advice, and just wanted the people who kicked you to be banned. Your shinryu log has nothing to do with you getting kicked from dungeons or casual content, only getting kicked from shinryu.

[HazyAssaulter]

I am not a raider, I have no static, and the highest content I have time to do is Shinryu, the only time I get to play is on weekends because of my job and taking care of my daughter. When my job settles down at the start of 2018 I do plan on sitting down and figuring out stuff better because I will not be working Mon-Fri 12+ hrs a day then coming home to get my daughter from baby sitter and go home and cook dinner and get her ready for bed.

People can and will kick you from farm parties if they have reason to believe you are going to be dead weight. You are far from the only person with limited time to play, and most people would rather not waste their time if they think they're going to have to carry you. If you cannot handle this eventuality it may be better for you to instead spend your time playing a single player game.

[RinnLanael]

People can and will kick you from farm parties if they have reason to believe you are going to be dead weight. You are far from the only person with limited time to play, and most people would rather not waste their time if they think they're going to have to carry you. If you cannot handle this eventuality it may be better for you to instead spend your time playing a single player game.

Let's not keep this thread going any longer than it needs to. I'm pretty sure Hannia gets it by this point and has some reasonable solutions to their problems. Can we close this one off now?

[Hannia]

Let's not keep this thread going any longer than it needs to. I'm pretty sure Hannia gets it by this point and has some reasonable solutions to their problems. Can we close this one off now?

sadly I have asked him to stop multiple times in this forum page and he isn't going to stop, he strikes me as the type that has to make sure he is "right" and the op (me in this case) has been belittled the point they no longer feel human. He has been assuming my attitude and belittling me since the first page of this post because "I'm just wrong and should get over it" when really this whole topic was me asking why it was acceptable and if I could report people for using logs as a reason to remove me from a group before we even go in.

Side note, I hear you can blacklist people on forums but I cant seem to figure it out anyone here know how to blacklist someone on here?

[HazyAssaulter]

Let's not keep this thread going any longer than it needs to. I'm pretty sure Hannia gets it by this point and has some reasonable solutions to their problems. Can we close this one off now?

At this point it is more about trying to admonish this (essentially), "you don't pay my sub" mentality rather than encourage it. Before I posted in this thread all the feedback was more or less, "Yeah OP, report those people, get those elitists banned!"

Yoshi wanted to avoid fostering a toxic community where people are harassed over low DPS, but his "don't ask don't tell" policy has instead fostered a community of entitlement and selfishness full of people who shut down and go scrambling for the report button as soon as it is even implied that they can improve their performance.

[SenorPatty]

Blind post here.

Hannia, I hope your callout to "toxic dps community" isn't based only on those two experiences. Because you haven't said anything of the likes of getting dealt a bad hand consistently, I can't see how getting kicked twice suddenly turns your view that the community is all about tank dps and they're bad for it.

[Hannia]

Blind post here.

Hannia, I hope your callout to "toxic dps community" isn't based only on those two experiences. Because you haven't said anything of the likes of getting dealt a bad hand consistently, I can't see how getting kicked twice suddenly turns your view that the community is all about tank dps and they're bad for it.

No it is off an entire weekend of harassment over the same thing in the time of 3 days constantly. I know what sometimes you run into a troll group every so often, but it just got out of hand after the 2nd day of dealing with it. Oh btw before anyone says that I was doing something else that had to be reason I got kicked, I was NOT! EVERY group that kicked me complained about the same thing "why are you tanking in shield oath" (side note it was almost always a dps complaining about 90% of the time however I had a healer complaining 2 or 3 times over the corse of the weekend)

[Hannia]

I know that this is a touchy subject, but what is with the mindset of everyone expecting tanks to do more dps? I got kicked out of a dungeon recently because I wasn't tanking in sword oath and because of that I wasn't doing enough dps to stay in the dungeon I guess. Yesterday, I was removed out of a hunt group killing A/S ranks because I was tanking in shield oath also. Why are tanks expected to tank in sword oath now for even the most casual content? Why are tanks in general expected to do "X dps"? Another thing, can I report people for harassing me for my status on FFXIV logs?

Just incase someone comes back and says "I never asked the questions that I said I asked".

[HoodRat]

Just incase someone comes back and says "I never asked the questions that I said I asked".

No one is saying you haven't asked the question. But it's been answered, multiple times.