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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    That is really creepy that you stalked him on a third party site just try and shoot him down
    Not to mention that he picked the most recent O1S log, even though the poster said logs...as in plural. And O2S as well. But you know...people are gonna cherry pick at one thing...its how these things work in this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Not to mention that he picked the most recent O1S log, even though the poster said logs...as in plural. And O2S as well. But you know...people are gonna cherry pick at one thing...its how these things work in this forum.
    I chose that one because that's the one they did their best on. If you prefer, I can look at their worst instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I chose that one because that's the one they did their best on. If you prefer, I can look at their worst instead.
    I don't particularly mind either way...just pointing out that if you do try to pull logs for that reason, use more than just one particular log to make a point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I don't particularly mind either way...just pointing out that if you do try to pull logs for that reason, use more than just one particular log to make a point.
    Since you want people to pull up more than one log, you should know that the AST in question has exactly 2 logs uploaded for O1s, not really much to choose from. But hey fine, I'll do as you asked.
    [GO to their fflogs for their best O2s - click on casts > click on their character name > on hte top right of the graph being shown click on "casts by source"]
    [Not sure if I can link the log directly so I didnt]
    This is their best o2s log they have uploaded. They died at 6:17 so say you dont look at their casts after 6:17. All the blank spaces you see are the moments the AST spent not casting anything. Those blank spaces could have been filled with DPS oriented spells. The point is that FFLOGS can show a lot more data than just numbers if you're willing to be patient.

    So since more than one log has been looked at, have I made my point or would you like me to keep going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctusT View Post
    Since you want people to pull up more than one log, you should know that the AST in question has exactly 2 logs uploaded for O1s, not really much to choose from. But hey fine, I'll do as you asked.
    [GO to their fflogs for their best O2s - click on casts > click on their character name > on hte top right of the graph being shown click on "casts by source"]
    [Not sure if I can link the log directly so I didnt]
    This is their best o2s log they have uploaded. They died at 6:17 so say you dont look at their casts after 6:17. All the blank spaces you see are the moments the AST spent not casting anything. Those blank spaces could have been filled with DPS oriented spells. The point is that FFLOGS can show a lot more data than just numbers if you're willing to be patient.

    So since more than one log has been looked at, have I made my point or would you like me to keep going?
    Ugh...brutal Rabanastre run...

    Anywho, again, I ...really didn't care about his logs. All I was saying was use more than one example if you were going to take the time to do some homework. A lot of us have been playing for a while...and sometimes, the most recent content isn't necessarily our best all the time. That's all. No, nobody has to do a full look at every log he may or may not have done...that's just ridiculous. As far as the poster goes...well...shoot, now I feel stupid for going out of my way to throw him a bone, only for him to just have...two logs for both fights. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Not to mention that he picked the most recent O1S log, even though the poster said logs...as in plural. And O2S as well. But you know...people are gonna cherry pick at one thing...its how these things work in this forum.
    Did you want them to pick apart each and every log? That would be far less constructive and they did give them good general advice that hinders most people's performance. They had low GCD usage. Press more buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    Did you want them to pick apart each and every log? That would be far less constructive and they did give them good general advice that hinders most people's performance. They had low GCD usage. Press more buttons.
    No, asking to pick apart each log would just be ridiculous. Nobody has time for that. But...had I realized that he only had four logs, two for each fight, posted there, I would not have bothered commenting on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Not to mention that he picked the most recent O1S log, even though the poster said logs...as in plural. And O2S as well. But you know...people are gonna cherry pick at one thing...its how these things work in this forum.
    1. Why should someone have to analyze every single log this person has up?

    2. Why would you not pick the most recent log, in which a person would in theory have the most knowledge of how a fight goes and thus would have less mistakes/ more improvement/ better gear than an older log?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    1. Why should someone have to analyze every single log this person has up?

    2. Why would you not pick the most recent log, in which a person would in theory have the most knowledge of how a fight goes and thus would have less mistakes/ more improvement/ better gear than an older log?
    1) They don't - and nobody should be analyzing every log a person has up, unless it's one of the elite players and they're learning from that. Only thing I suggested was use more than one example.

    2) You and I both know that's not the case 100% of the time. Most knowledge? Agreed. Less mistakes/more improvement/better gear...eh.... there's a reason we have a vent thread called 'Tales from the Duty Finder'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Not to mention that he picked the most recent O1S log, even though the poster said logs...as in plural. And O2S as well. But you know...people are gonna cherry pick at one thing...its how these things work in this forum.
    IF you want to go though all of that person's logs and check each individual parse please be my guest. One can hope that as people do the fight more, their dps/healing will improve. This was why the most recent log was picked. If you wanted to cherry pick someone's log to make fun of them you could just pick the one they did the worst/best in. The log was just an example....
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