Tank dps harrasment

[NocturniaUzuki]

Hit the replay button and it will show you each players positioning the entire fight. Or the time table to check incoming damage to see who has aggro, who stopped attacking, etc.

Also what you said doesn't make any sense. Assuming players are bouncing aggro they will stop DPSing so of course FFlogs will reflect that.

It's a powerful tool for players to improve their gameplay and understanding and only ignorant players try to demonize it or use it as some kind of trophy.

Well like I said, I don't have the expertise. I have literally gone on FFlogs ONCE. After that guy started flaming me over my FFlogs data, so I decided to see what he was on about. I didn't like what I saw, and knew it was against the ToS to parse anyways, so I frankly don't care about FFlogs. I was just speculating based on what I gathered from what you said.

In particular, I didn't like how it had my data, with my name on it, on a third party site for every troll in the universe to go read.

[HyoMinPark]

I wish more people understood this like you. FFLogs provides nothing but numbers with no context. It tells you absolutely nothing about the player. And from what I've seen it doesn't even track all content in the game? So that's an even less useful picture.

This is false—FFLogs can track uploaded data down to the GCD. It shows what casts each party member made, what buffs were used, what spells, what healing was done, etc.; it even has a Replay function that plays back the entire fight for you to analyze. It show deaths, what the killing blow was, how much damage the person took, any and all debuffs people had. It shows everything. With regards to the content it tracks, the only logs that matter are Savage and Ultimate logs. Who cares about parses from dungeons or even the 24-man? No one; raiders recruiting for statics or looking for statics only care about Savage/Ultimate parses. I don’t even think they care much about Ex trials.

EDIT: With regards to the percentiles and numbers, people cannot just look at the gray/green/blue/purple/orange number and take it for surface value. You have to look deeper. I have some really ugly logs on FFLogs: a lot where I have died due to my own mistakes (looking at you, V3S reapers) and a lot where I have died to other mistakes, like lack of healing or being clipped (my V3S clear had 3 deaths, two of which I was clipped by another person’s Folio—it was 9th percentile and definitely not my finest moment). You have to look at comp—a BRD or MCH with a DRG is going to automatically have higher numbers against a BRD or MCH that doesn’t have a DRG. rDPS is going to be higher if you’re running with multiple jobs that buff everyone (like NIN’s TA, DRG’s Litany) compared to if you’re running with a comp that has no buffs/synergy. You can look at some of the oranges and dig deeper to see if the person was catered to for the run: if you look at a parse and see that the MNK got 12 Balances, 5 Spears, and 7 Arrows, while the rest of the group only received AOE/Expanded cards, it’s pretty obvious that MNK was being padded that run.

In other words, you cannot take the numbers at surface value—you have to look deeper into them. Why were the numbers grey? Did the person die a lot? Were they not being healed? Did they stay in tank stance spamming their enmity combo, or were they actually stance-dancing while spamming DPS combos? You have to dig deeper. And that’s what FFLogs is there for: deeper analysis so that people can improve.

[Canadane]

It's a dps oriented battle meta.
Everyone us built as a dps with differing responsibilities. Some dps tank hits and other dps heal damage.

[KaivaC]

It's a dps oriented battle meta.
Everyone us built as a dps with differing responsibilities. Some dps tank hits and other dps heal damage.

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[HazyAssaulter]

That is really creepy that you stalked him on a third party site just try and shoot him down

Hilarity of your stalker accusation aside, he openly invited everyone to check his fflogs to try to back up his statements.

[Dualgunner]

If you actually know how to use FFlogs, you can pin-point the precise moment someone died, how they died and what led to their death. It's far from simply a numerical tool.

I find people like to forget this.
It also shows buff uptimes, debuffs applied, healing done, healing received, and resource counts throughout the fight too. It's great for improvement.

[KaivaC]

Gimme a bit...in Rabanastre...I'll reply soon

[AikaThompson]

If it makes y'all feel better, I had the exact opposite experience a couple of days ago, with a BLM who threw a hissy fit because I was going into Sword Oath on bosses in Stone Vigil of all places. Something about overworking the healer (who said nothing the whole dungeon, and no one died the whole way) and losing aggro (I didn't lose aggro on anything) for your pathetic DPS.

The best part is that I, uh, read the combat logs quite thoroughly afterwards, and I was doing more damage than the BLM. I didn't mention that to them, but I did mention that I'm a level 70 SCH/AST and that dropping tank mode is 100% normal and not a problem for healers unless the tank or healer is terribly geared, or the DPS is standing in bad and forcing a bunch of AOE healing. That didn't make them any happier for some reason.

[EorzeaHero69]

If it makes y'all feel better, I had the exact opposite experience a couple of days ago, with a BLM who threw a hissy fit because I was going into Sword Oath on bosses in Stone Vigil of all places. Something about overworking the healer (who said nothing the whole dungeon, and no one died the whole way) and losing aggro (I didn't lose aggro on anything) for your pathetic DPS.

The best part is that I, uh, read the combat logs quite thoroughly afterwards, and I was doing more damage than the BLM. I didn't mention that to them, but I did mention that I'm a level 70 SCH/AST and that dropping tank mode is 100% normal and not a problem for healers unless the tank or healer is terribly geared, or the DPS is standing in bad and forcing a bunch of AOE healing. That didn't make them any happier for some reason.

Prolly cause the blm doesn't like tank dps for any reason.

[HazyAssaulter]

Or you could just stick to being supportive and trying to help someone get better instead of writing them off and being a general...well, thing.

People have to want to be helped in order to be helped. In this situation, OP doesn't want help improving his numbers. If he wanted that he would have asked or looked up any number of guides to improving tank DPS. Instead, he would rather complain on a forum and make his logs private.