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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Something that people keep forgetting. Every content in this game, from Normal to Savage (Excluding Ultimate) is designed in a way that it can be cleared with no tank or healer dps. Not with minimum item level ofc.

    If clearing content is your main goal, tanks and healers dps shouldn't matter so much unless you want to clear content with minimum item level or going for speed kills.

    OP already stated that they have killed Shinryu EX, has several weapons from there and the mount. It means that they have enough experience with the fight mechanics as a tank. If OP wanted to be a better tank, they would have learned how to tank stance by now, but that is not needed in most content. Not defending OP. There are rooms for improvement. Watching PoVs of good players should help.

    Also, don't expect high dps anything from PF/DF
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    Last edited by Yeol; 11-14-2017 at 03:56 PM.
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    Syrehn's Avatar
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Something that people keep forgetting. Every content in this game, from Normal to Savage (Excluding Ultimate) is designed in a way that it can be cleared with no tank or healer dps.
    I believe you are mistaken in regards to Savage being designed to not factor in tank dps. I'm pretty sure the last time SE weighed in on this topic Yoshi-P stated that:

    They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.
    Src: Game Watch interview with Yoshi-P

    So any tank, in Savage content (I honestly don't give 2 figs what they do in dungeons), not making the effort to improve their DPS is not playing effectively and potentially putting more stress on the rest of the team that are DPSing appropriately.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 11-15-2017 at 02:08 AM.