Tank dps harrasment

[Joe777]

Or kick the person for difference in playstyles and replace them with someone else immediately as long as you dont say hey your dps is rubbish it has no link to parsing due to the nature that parsing is treated its safer to just kick instead of saying anything

Kicking for no good reason is also griefing, because it hinders the victim's gameplay. If a group wants like-minded people, they should specify.

Are we certain that FFLogs are against the ToS, because that sounds like pure speculation to me. Parsers, yes, are technically against the ToS, but as FFLogs is only an information dump I can't for the life of me see how looking at that and using the information provided is against the ToS in any way. Not without being able to prove that the person using the information is the one who parsed and submitted it in the first place.

So long as said info is entirely gathered by parsing, then yes it is a violation. Guilty by association, as they say.

[Hayward]

Why should it be acceptable for people to have to carry you if you refuse to improve? Asking for a shin ex perspective

Can you tryhard raiders go one minute without harassing people for not subscribing to the MLG mentality of gaming? Where in the world did the TC say anything about wanting to "be carried"? The only time tanking in Sword Oath/Deliverance is remotely acceptable is A) The tank forgot to switch stances upon entry or B) The tank established hate in the early going. Any other time is cause for setting that tank straight about what his/her main purpose is, and it's not setting a high score in FFLogs.

[HoodRat]

I know that this is a touchy subject, but what is with the mindset of everyone expecting tanks to do more dps?

If you know the fight and your class, there's no reason not to focus on dps as a tank. Using tank stance and enmity combo as little as possible will significantly increase your dps, and, assuming you know how to use your CDs, you won't be taking much more damage than you would normally.

[Selova]

snip.

Honestly, from what we know based on the OP's post, they just got dealt a bad hand of cards and ended up in groups with not-so-savory individuals. There isn't enough information to start throwing out accusations about whether or not it was a problem with the OP or not. The person i quoted was claiming facts on the OP's situation on how they were being carried based on nothing but pure conjecture. It's obvious the OP is venting frustration and rightfully so, some of the people in this community can wear on your nerves fast, especially the "Meta fanboys" where you are treated like sub-human garbage if you parse anything below orange in non-savage/EX content. It's getting kind of old honestly.

[LastFireAce]

" If OP doesn't want to be discriminated against because of his fflogs rankings, he needs to git gud and improve them.

Lol what? Do you understand bunch of player in FF community who play in PS4? WE do no have the ability to improve are rank at will without needing a third party friend or whatever. This already is a issues.

[Yeol]

Something that people keep forgetting. Every content in this game, from Normal to Savage (Excluding Ultimate) is designed in a way that it can be cleared with no tank or healer dps. Not with minimum item level ofc.

If clearing content is your main goal, tanks and healers dps shouldn't matter so much unless you want to clear content with minimum item level or going for speed kills.

OP already stated that they have killed Shinryu EX, has several weapons from there and the mount. It means that they have enough experience with the fight mechanics as a tank. If OP wanted to be a better tank, they would have learned how to tank stance by now, but that is not needed in most content. Not defending OP. There are rooms for improvement. Watching PoVs of good players should help.

Also, don't expect high dps anything from PF/DF

[MeganLynn]

If people feel its acceptable to kick a tank because his/her DPS is low. Is it also acceptable for a tank to kick a DPS because he/she can't tank? Or a healer to kick a DPS because he/she can't heal? Because, the DPS is OBVIOSLY being carried since they can't do those things, right?!
/sarcasm

[BigRed5392]

People are allowed to kick you out of their own parties (hunts/shinryu/savage groups). So the only thing you have a leg to stand on for is dungeon pugs, and even then, difference in playstyle is a thing.

Yoshida even stated using parser/ fflogs as a vote kick reason is against ToS. Since fflogs/parser are against the Tos more so if used to harrass people.

[BigRed5392]

Are we certain that FFLogs are against the ToS, because that sounds like pure speculation to me. Parsers, yes, are technically against the ToS, but as FFLogs is only an information dump I can't for the life of me see how looking at that and using the information provided is against the ToS in any way. Not without being able to prove that the person using the information is the one who parsed and submitted it in the first place.

look uo every QA live letter, everyone one has a "please add parser" question, each time he stats no, and adds that parsers are a "don't ask, don't tell" if you use it to harass people, it against tos. we going on 5 years he has been saying this.

[Mavrias]

Yoshida even stated using parser/ fflogs as a vote kick reason is against ToS. Since fflogs/parser are against the Tos more so if used to harrass people.

Dont need a parser to see someone in tank stance the whole time lol.