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  1. #131
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    I wish more people understood this like you. FFLogs provides nothing but numbers with no context. It tells you absolutely nothing about the player. And from what I've seen it doesn't even track all content in the game? So that's an even less useful picture.
    FFlogs provides a GCD by GCD breakdown of fights. Sources of damage, deaths, etc. Whether you choose to actually look at that information or just the surface value numbers is on you.
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  2. #132
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
    World
    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    I wish more people understood this like you. FFLogs provides nothing but numbers with no context. It tells you absolutely nothing about the player. And from what I've seen it doesn't even track all content in the game? So that's an even less useful picture.
    This...the 24 man parses made me laugh since well....My FC group usually runs those as part of our Drunk Friday Night Fun Night. So no, it absolutely does not give you a full picture. Heck my FC leader dragged me through delta drunk. Good thing no one was parsing that >.>
    (0)

    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

  3. #133
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    I wish more people understood this like you. FFLogs provides nothing but numbers with no context. It tells you absolutely nothing about the player. And from what I've seen it doesn't even track all content in the game? So that's an even less useful picture.
    You are so wrong there, like really wrong. There is a timeline where the player does certain skill, where they burst or substain damage, how many times a spell been casted, how many cures has been used, how many times tank use their cds etc. It's just not numbers as you say. There is a lot more than just numbers, so please check it again.
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  4. #134
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    I wish more people understood this like you. FFLogs provides nothing but numbers with no context. It tells you absolutely nothing about the player. And from what I've seen it doesn't even track all content in the game? So that's an even less useful picture.
    If you actually know how to use FFlogs, you can pin-point the precise moment someone died, how they died and what led to their death. It's far from simply a numerical tool.
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  5. #135
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    It's a dps oriented battle meta.
    Everyone us built as a dps with differing responsibilities. Some dps tank hits and other dps heal damage.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It's a dps oriented battle meta.
    Everyone us built as a dps with differing responsibilities. Some dps tank hits and other dps heal damage.
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    ......

    ........what?
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  7. #137
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    Syrehn's Avatar
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Something that people keep forgetting. Every content in this game, from Normal to Savage (Excluding Ultimate) is designed in a way that it can be cleared with no tank or healer dps.
    I believe you are mistaken in regards to Savage being designed to not factor in tank dps. I'm pretty sure the last time SE weighed in on this topic Yoshi-P stated that:

    They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.
    Src: Game Watch interview with Yoshi-P

    So any tank, in Savage content (I honestly don't give 2 figs what they do in dungeons), not making the effort to improve their DPS is not playing effectively and potentially putting more stress on the rest of the team that are DPSing appropriately.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 11-15-2017 at 02:08 AM.

  8. #138
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    jameseoakes's Avatar
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    James Oakes
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I don't mean to burst your bubble, but according to your most recent o1s log, your whm cohealer actually spent more gcds healing than you did, and yet they did over 2k dps whereas you did about 1/8 the damage of the whm. I got my healer friend to help me read it since I'm just a filthy tank and not a healer, and they said you had almost half the casts of the whm(you only had 117 versus the whm's 206) and that your casts were all spread apart. So basically, there's a lot of time where you're just standing around doing nothing at all. Oh, and you only revived someone once whereas the whm revived the other two times. Just like Oscura said, there's a lot of information you get get from fflogs.
    That is really creepy that you stalked him on a third party site just try and shoot him down
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  9. #139
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    HazyAssaulter's Avatar
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    Diosthenes Fara
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    That is really creepy that you stalked him on a third party site just try and shoot him down
    Hilarity of your stalker accusation aside, he openly invited everyone to check his fflogs to try to back up his statements.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    That is really creepy that you stalked him on a third party site just try and shoot him down
    Not to mention that he picked the most recent O1S log, even though the poster said logs...as in plural. And O2S as well. But you know...people are gonna cherry pick at one thing...its how these things work in this forum.
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