Built-in Parsers

[Dualgunner]

Got any evidence to back that claim up Big Red? Since its just a little research should be easy to go and cite it really quick.

[Jijifli]

Got any evidence to back that claim up Big Red? Since its just a little research should be easy to go and cite it really quick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WXYg-S05U

Likely referring to 6:04, where Yoshi said they aren't allowed because of things like hacks, so the company has to officially decline.

However, he's telling the players don't sub your mod in people's face. If you aren't telling people you're parsing, nobody is going to know 100% you are parsing. He wants people to enjoy their experience, and if parsing gives the player the full experience, they can, so long as they aren't rude about it.

[Dualgunner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WXYg-S05U

Likely referring to 6:04, where Yoshi said they aren't allowed because of things like hacks, so the company has to officially decline.

However, he's telling the players don't sub your mod in people's face. If you aren't telling people you're parsing, nobody is going to know 100% you are parsing. He wants people to enjoy their experience, and if parsing gives the player the full experience, they can, so long as they aren't rude about it.

"doesn't make too big of a difference in
6:46terms of like giving users an advantage
6:48or not um he feels that what's most
6:50important is on this the actual skill of
6:53the player themselves and in terms of
6:58like different tools that are being used
7:01or that has come across like um like
7:06hacking tool or like thoughts that would
7:08do menial tasks for you or generate Gil
7:11for you those are definitely not good
7:14and we would have to go in and ban those
7:16people that are abusing the system um"

Based on the transcript of the video linked, he is talking about botting and actual hacks as a separate entity entirely to a program like ACT. If this is what Big Red is referring to, then he's off by a mile and "hacks" are absolutely not a reason they won't do an official parser.

Imho as long as we find it acceptable to rank all jobs based purely on damage they do, we as a community do not deserve an official parse. Now i have been pugging all the content since 2.0 and i have never once hit enrage with a 100% clean run.

From what I'm understanding, your argument is:

Parsers lead to comparisons between the jobs
Comparisons between the jobs lead to ranking
Ranking is bad
Therefore parsers are bad?

The flaw here is the ranking happens with or without a parser. We have 3 tanks for 2 spots, 3 healers for 2 spots, and 9 dps for 4 spots. People are gonna rank what the best things to bring will be in the long run even without solid numbers.

And with the parser and the rankings we're able to have an open dialogue with the devs about balance, and showcase what the real numbers are versus what the devs may want / may have predicted.

EDIT: I can get where you're coming from that ranking purely on DPS can be shortsighted; there are things that don't show on the parser like rDPS and that can skew the idea of what a job is actually bringing. But all other things equal as we must assume for Occam's Razor (player skill, mechanics followed, etc) we still inevitably wind up with the question of "Which jobs help us kill this faster?" And whether we answer that quantitatively with parsers or qualitatively without is irrelevant.

[BigRed5392]

Got any evidence to back that claim up Big Red? Since its just a little research should be easy to go and cite it really quick.

I was having net issues, but anyone and everyone had a chance to watch any and all live letters. they are archived on both youtube and the forums.
this post and suggestion has come up over 12 times since ARR. A forum search, and google of the live letters would bring up info. People are so keen for others to research content in ff14 with just "google it" as a tip, don't be shocked when others suggest the same for repeat topics.

Yoshida is sick of seeing parser requests that he also noped out from a live letter at an event.

[Ilan]

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Yoshida is sick of seeing parser requests that he also noped out from a live letter at an event.

A lot of people are sick of his fetish for fates too but that doesn't prevent him from bringing that stuff back over and over again.

[Dualgunner]

I was having net issues, but anyone and everyone had a chance to watch any and all live letters. they are archived on both youtube and the forums.
this post and suggestion has come up over 12 times since ARR. A forum search, and google of the live letters would bring up info. People are so keen for others to research content in ff14 with just "google it" as a tip, don't be shocked when others suggest the same for repeat topics.

Yoshida is sick of seeing parser requests that he also noped out from a live letter at an event.

That's going a long way to say "You should do the legwork to back up my claims for me." To which I say no, and that which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[BigRed5392]

That's going a long way to say "You should do the legwork to back up my claims for me." To which I say no, and that which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

like i said I was having net issues.

but free free to pick a fight with me. it was one of the live letters from a fan fest. i don't recall which one off hand. i don't typically lie though.