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    Aana Azel
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    If you cannot see the difference in being able to shield an entire party vs. shielding one person during aoe I'm not certain what to tell you. In my reply I was very clear about the domains that I was speaking about. My issue is with the scope of the shielding offered by paladin (and potentially warrior) as compared to what dark can give. Both shields are worthless for single targets and will likely never be used for such because both are very weak. The only exception is when you are shielding yourself on dark knight at which point it is not utility but mitigation.
    I read fine. The only reason you don't like TBN is because its a 'dps loss' and cite the top drk parses to support that claim of uselessness. As I said, check the top PARTIES. Overall high DPS groups, not the drk that got 20 balance cards fed to him and the only goal was individual max DPS.

    I looked at FFLOGs and found the highest rated GROUP that had a drk on the list. (the 1st with a drk was in another language and couldn't read it. So I used the 2nd highest raid group rating that had a drk). Looked at neo exdeath. The very 1st high performing group I found had a 99th % Drk performance in Neo Exdeath in used TBN 11 times. Didn't have to go digging to find some oddball case. 1st thing I could find. TBN used constantly in top tier raiding. Must be because its SOOO bad. Good day sir.
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    I read fine. The only reason you don't like TBN is because its a 'dps loss' and cite the top drk parses to support that claim of uselessness. As I said, check the top PARTIES. Overall high DPS groups, not the drk that got 20 balance cards fed to him and the only goal was individual max DPS.

    I looked at FFLOGs and found the highest rated GROUP that had a drk on the list. (the 1st with a drk was in another language and couldn't read it. So I used the 2nd highest raid group rating that had a drk). Looked at neo exdeath. The very 1st high performing group I found had a 99th % Drk performance in Neo Exdeath in used TBN 11 times. Good day sir.
    I never claimed anything about your reading. And the parse you mention did this to their OT as you claimed? I'm looking at the second highest they use TBN 5 times and on themselves. Also not looking at personal parses, I'm talking about speed runners who maximize party dps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
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    Blackest knight is absolutely raid utility. "Its the mitigation they need". Yes all those OT darks are really using it for mitigation. Please.
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    Also you mischaracterize most people who run things for high percentiles as being balance fed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    ... The 99% people are having the entire raid work towards feeding that person so they can get a top number. Personal balance cards, working party mechanics around that individuals uptime. Of course they aren't going to use a (slight) dps loss utility when they are going for personal dps records with the party on board for that goal.

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    This is simply personal number fluffing. This does happen, and I do agree that they should not be modeled after. However, most people who run for high percentiles know the real way to hit hard is to raise everyone to the ceiling. Its why when you look at 99th percentiles you tend to see them with other 99th percentiles.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 10-03-2017 at 05:35 AM.