Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
If someone is obviously, undoubtedly a jerk or a troll, it won't be that difficult to gather 3/4 or 5/8 "no".
The votekick system is abused precisely because stalemate is that easy to avoid.
And if you were to not count the initiator and the individual up to be kicked, then kicks could be avoided altogether by pairing up with a friend. The same way that the kick system can be abused in terms of successfully kicking someone, and the same way that avoiding kicks is circumvented now. The potential for "abuse" goes both ways; not just one. Hence why SE would have to adjust the number of members in a Light and Full Party. Something that seems unlikely given how Light Parties have always been 4 players, and Full Parties 8, and SE seems fully set in their ways with regards to how party formation is in FFXIV. So the Vote Dismiss feature is working as intended with 2/3 and 4/7.

Like another poster said: if an individual is getting kicked several times in such a short period, it's highly unlikely that people are "abusing" the system; more than likely, the person being kicked is the problem. I'm sure that abuse does occur, but I doubt it occurs at the frequency that a lot of people who cry "vote kick abuse!" claim that it does.