Did you know not performing as you think another player should in a group

[HyoMinPark]

I have the whole discussion from my most infuriating kick if you want. But it's all in French.

And that's anecdotal. We're asking for non-anecdotal data that the Vote Dismiss feature is being rampantly abused.

EDIT: Inb4 we're asked to provide evidence that it is not being abused, the burden of proof lies with those who are contesting the current system.

[Dualgunner]

I have the whole discussion from my most infuriating kick if you want. But it's all in French.

That's cool but that's not data, that's anecdote.

[Dualgunner]

Then you know how childish people can be.
On my end, I've been kicked for "off-tanking Scylla in Sword Oath", and for "being AFK" when struggling to stay alive at the end of Nerverreap after every other people fell of the platform.

But again, this bad reasons could be avoided with a more restrictive vote-kick.

I heard the OT scylla thing before so I'm really just asking: how do you know AFK was the reason they kicked you?

And that's two instances. Even discounting they're anecdotes, your case that the votekick is regularly abused is not strong.

[Reynhart]

I heard the OT scylla thing before so I'm really just asking: how do you know AFK was the reason they kicked you?

Because they told me...on the chat...when I joined back. And even there, the GM only told me "Different playstyles, dude" (Well, not that words precisely )

[Alistaire]

Because they told me...on the chat...when I joined back. And even there, the GM only told me "Different playstyles, dude" (Well, not that words precisely )

Makes me glad they got rid of the ability for people to rejoin like that.

[LittleSparrow]

I think votekicking for having a different playstyle really shouldn't be allowed, but oh well.

[HyoMinPark]

I think votekicking for having a different playstyle really shouldn't be allowed, but oh well.

Having the "Different Playstyles" reasoning is there because SE cannot enforce a particular playstyle on the community. In order to not allow for such kicks, they would have to enforce a specific playstyle, which is not something that can be done because the playerbase is so vast, and comprised of so many people that are all different in some way or another. Hence why the "Differing Playstyles" is a reason for a valid kick. SE knows they can't expect everyone in this game to play exactly the same, so if a party agrees to kick a player for not meeting the expectation of the group, they can do so.

[Dualgunner]

Ah so this was before they set it so you can't join back. So your two anecdotes are particularly dated in addition to being anecdotes.

[SenSaitoru]

Personally I don't see people kicked very often. I use duty finder for almost all the dungeons I need. The few times, I saw someone kicked is because they disconnected and didn't return. There was a time when a ninja was kicked for pulling mobs after the tank asked him to stop but that's pretty much all I've seen as vote kicks go. Again though, maybe I'm just lucky.

[Coatl]

In 4mans I really don't think people should get kicked for performing suboptimally as long as the run is smooth enough. In savage raid content sometimes you have to kick the straggler, nothing you can do about it.