SMN 4.06 Changes

[Claviusnex]

No thanks. This would make the SMN-Bahamut connection basically non-existent, AKA braindead as f**k. Also, if all you're doing when Bahamut is out is casting Ruin and Addle, you're doing it wrong.

I believe what they are getting at is the wait for Aetherflow to come off CD before you use Bahamut. Basically you spend most of your time spamming Ruin whatever with the occasional DoT. It doesn't get much more brain dead than that.

[Koyuki38]

Who cares bahamut autohitting ?

We'll still wait for contagion to summon him, and what is ready in same time as contagion (if you play SMN the right way) ? yes, Aether flow. That will change nothing in a standard rotation. Use contagion when our burst is out, which means Bahamut + aether, that's the same as right now.

That will just improve things if the rotation un desync, but won't change anything as long as you do not fail (like the previous update about aether stacks)

[ShaolinMike]

I think what Kio is saying is that to use Bahamut to his maximum effectiveness we need to not only have the Bahamut aether to summon him (2 stacks of flow) but also an additional, third stack to push festers (which is how I read spamming Ruin in the downtime waiting for flow to come off cooldown). On top of this we need to hold a tri-disaster and an Addle for this push phase which is causing us to have to use Addle offensively instead of for it's intended purpose.

Ah I see. Yeah, about that...

[Senliten]

I am sorry but What is this nonsense about ? Why are we need to tank dungeon ? It is tank job to tank the boss why you need Titan to tank it ? Is SMN tank now ?

Cause
A: Party finder
B: Tank dced and ditched after first boss (never came back while heading to second boss, so lost party tank bonus)
C: Searching replacement via duty finder is locked out for full pre-mades.
D: dps ques were a bitch at the time and we were already near midway through.
E: agreement made upon remaining three of us to strive ahead with titan tanking was made
F: titan is considered a "tank" type pet. And smn has the ability to when situations may call for it to titan tank, but it requires a level of skill. I simply manage the ability to thanks to past pet class experience and knowledge and incorporating that into the class. Along side making sure to trust two completely random people to know their class, if we couldn't then second agreement made was to simply back out if we ever wiped, we never wiped once.

If titan was to end up being one shotted at the Ruby Princess, then we'd never of finished, however he only came close to death, which is where the aspect of sustain would of came in handy, even with a physick or two tossed in after the attack to help the next auto attack, because the healer was still mid cast with a heal to titan, sustain would of managed to take the edge off a bit more. Cause Physick is just.... terrible.

Run was still done in the normal 15-20 min time, with a bit extra to decide what we'd do.
Also I never said you flat out needed to tank as a class, but rather need to in a sense to understand just how resourceful sustain is in an environment that can be easily recreated and factor in why sustain is beneficial to us, not just for titan, but for our pets in general. So please stop twisting my words and making them out to be that we can tank just as easily as the actual tanks. For there is still a damn high risk if you or anyone royally screws up when doing this, cause it takes a certain level of knowledge, skill, and trust in anothers abilities(especially with two complete random people), to do this.

[Vallhallix]

Yoshi p: YES!! after years of careful planning and nerfs FINALLY I have destroyed SMN. Now you guys will never come even close to competing with BLM again muahaahhahaa. See I couldn't just make the class useless when there were only two magic dps, people would call me out for BLM favortism. BUT with this third class I can go full out nerf hammer on SMN no one will notice as much muahaahahahaha. Let me also give them a dragon just in case they notice too much. It's the perfect plan and finally SMN is dead muahahaha.

[Savagelf]

thank you Yoshi p for show us that care about the summoner.

there many suggest on how improve summoner all them good ideal. let just wait see what SE does.

my challenge to SE pet jobs are a challenge grab it by chocobo feather and make it better for the summoner. we really wait since 2.0 for improvement, it time to make summoner great again. hehe

I personal don't want behamut can do without it I just wish see improve on all summoner pets and skills behamut may be cool but is he truly worth it not really.

[AlphaSonic]

I would just kill the pet, make the SMN a DoT based job and abilities like fester and stuff become Ifrit - Shiva - Ramuh... Like in old games where the summon is just a big animation for an attack. And when you've done enough summons you can use Bahamut to do a Mega Flare. Pets are too clunky in this game to make them work.

[Savagelf]

alpha sonic solution would make the summoner not a summoner anymore it we have come up with new name for it not-summoner

the reason summoner exsist and got it name for it ability summoner ifrit and garuda and Ramuh

I think Alpha sonic should tried play black mage or red mage

[AlphaSonic]

alpha sonic solution would make the summoner not a summoner anymore it we have come up with new name for it not-summoner

the reason summoner exsist and got it name for it ability summoner ifrit and garuda and Ramuh

I think Alpha sonic should tried play black mage or red mage

Have you ever played one of the old FF? Summoner used to be a glorified Black Mage with a big animation with a summon for each spell. So please will you shut up with your no Final Fantasy knowledge mouth?

[Savagelf]

I more knowledge about ff game then you do why do you notice that I keep refer to old games. yes me shut up because I know to much about old games that you don't want people see and you don't me to talk because I prefer see summoner hold to core machinac

I play ff8 and ff 9 ff1

the summoner is pet job it will away be