A simple revamp to Cleric Stance that might fix raid balancing..

[RichardButte]

that aside, if something is bad for the players, its bad for everyone

They've made enough decisions in the past that have been purely worse for players while being better for the development team (ie no glamour logs, terrible housing setup, "our database can't handle that!", etc.).

maybe the devs should start considering healer dps instead of pretending it doesnt, because that way healers would have to like. put some effort. this would stop me doing about 7 times more dps than my shit cohealers

Thank you for realizing the true purpose of my post.

They need to shit or get off the pot when it comes to healer DPS. Either make it a requirement and blame bad DPS who stand in AoE for wasting the mana of healers, or make it irrelevant somehow.

But they need to CHOOSE. They cannot continue saying "We don't factor in healer DPS" when healers do enough DPS to thoroughly destroy DPS checks that would otherwise be challenging.

For what it's worth, I'd say it's less that WoW is "embracing the healer DPS meta" (have you seen how little damage their healers are actually doing during raids compared to ours?) and more that they're realizing that "standing around waiting for mana to regen" is a tremendously boring activity and that healers would also like to push their buttons as many times as mechanics allow. That's why healer DPS moves don't cost any MP - they can use them when no healing is required to mitigate some of the previous boredom that they'd have standing around doing nothing otherwise, because of mana constraints.

And this would also be a welcome change.

The conservation of mana via doing nothing is never going to be a fun game mechanic. Even if healer DPS was next to nothing, actually pressing buttons is infinitely better than standing there, waiting for a HP bar to drop.

And since the devs can't seem to figure out what they want to do here, they may as well make healer DPS spells cost nothing and then factor healer DPS into DPS checks.