A simple revamp to Cleric Stance that might fix raid balancing..

[Sebazy]

But they need to CHOOSE. They cannot continue saying "We don't factor in healer DPS" when healers do enough DPS to thoroughly destroy DPS checks that would otherwise be challenging.

Vertical gear progression is going to destroy those DPS checks regardless. This is something that super savage will be able to tackle as it's a pretty safe assumption that that's going to be tuned to iLvl 340 or perhaps even higher.

It's also worth noting that SE have been down this road before with Gordias, the DPS checks there were stern enough that they were still a very real challenge at 210 with healers contributing as well. You only have to look the damage A3S and A4S did to the mainstream raid scene to appreciate that it wasn't a good decision.

They need to shit or get off the pot when it comes to healer DPS. Either make it a requirement and blame bad DPS who stand in AoE for wasting the mana of healers, or make it irrelevant somehow.

Perhaps you could clarify as to why you feel it is such an issue now when this has been a thing for the past 4 years?