DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[Kreyd]

While some of your ideas overall might not be bad, this specific point make it hard to take the whole post seriously.

You probably prefer unleash for the easy targetting associated, or maybe the animation, but removing AD from your bar is a complete lack of understading it's awesome usage.

Edit : you don't "have better to do than AD". You weave ogcd or replenish abilities between AD.

Yeah, that point is really a struggle. I just wanted to point out, that Unleash and AD are quite similar and I dont really see the reason to have both.
I could also remove Unleash and put AD on it's position and nothing really would change for me. I prefer Unleash, others may prefer AD or use both.

My aoe rotation goes 1 Unleash-Salted Earth-Blood Price-TBN-Dark Passenger. Then I go for SE combo (when there is one bigger target in the pull that will live the longest) and weave in as much Dark Arts Quietus as possible (which is actually a lot)

There may be better rotations with AD in it, but I feel really comfi with this one.

Edit: Maybe i was a bit too hard to poor AD. I'm sorry xD

However, I think that change to AD or Unleash, to make them more different to each other, would still be nice, instead of having AD as a kind of "improved Unleash"

[347SPECTRE]

Yes, but you don't get AD until the late 50s, so without unleash you won't have any AoE grab for low level synced content

[347SPECTRE]

Enmity grab* on phone, can't edit

[Falar]

No a million-billion times to this. Abyssal Drain is the only tank enmity skill that is both ranged and AoE, and its one of the few things that makes DRK special. I really don't know why some people still have a preference for Unleash, I mean yeah it has niche uses for initial pick-up and positioning, but once you have AD there's only a handful of situations where you want it.

Yeah, this. With the Unleash nerf (while maintaining its MP cost) I have been really trying to eliminate my usage of it all when gathering but sometimes it can't be avoided. I would give up Unleash before AD.

[DWolfwood]

Yeah, this. With the Unleash nerf (while maintaining its MP cost) I have been really trying to eliminate my usage of it all when gathering but sometimes it can't be avoided. I would give up Unleash before AD.

I wouldn't mind them combining it with other skills. Like giving the Dark Arts HP drain to Unleash and making Unmend an AoE if Dark Arts'd.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Just updated my little DRK rant thread. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...in-3.x-and-4.x

Fellow DRKs who are interested can look at it and see if you also think the same way or have a similar mentality.

[TankHunter678]

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In its current state its pretty much better to just not have dark passenger and use more AD. You get more overall damage that way. AD used twice is 240 potency, for only a little more then stock DP, but you need to DA DP to get the same potency for nearly 2x the cost, eating up 50% of your mana in the process.

For reference, I am at level 60, 2 ADs is 1944 MP. DP is 1768 MP and so is DA. So I can spend 3536 MP to do the damage output of 1944 MP. Now if I am lucky the targets can be hit with blind, which is so so defense as mobs start to miss a little more often, but not often enough to make up the rest of the cost.

Also while AD does not have as large of an enmity modifier its AoE design is better suited for when you drag the pack to one side of you. Allowing you to aim for the center of the pack and hit everything, instead of unleash only hitting half of the pack if its a really big pack.

[DRKoftheAzure]

In its current state its pretty much better to just not have dark passenger and use more AD. You get more overall damage that way. AD used twice is 240 potency, for only a little more then stock DP, but you need to DA DP to get the same potency for nearly 2x the cost, eating up 50% of your mana in the process.

For reference, I am at level 60, 2 ADs is 1944 MP. DP is 1768 MP and so is DA. So I can spend 3536 MP to do the damage output of 1944 MP. Now if I am lucky the targets can be hit with blind, which is so so defense as mobs start to miss a little more often, but not often enough to make up the rest of the cost.

You forget that Blood Price MP regen is garbage anyway as of 4.0... so DA+AD is not worth using 3 times or more in a row now...

[TankHunter678]

You forget that Blood Price MP regen is garbage anyway as of 4.0... so DA+AD is not worth using 3 times or more in a row now...

Which is why they added in Quietus giving MP return, like what 5% per mob hit, granted that does not help at my level at all.

Seriously why the hell did they have to nerf blood price?

[DRKoftheAzure]

Which is why they added in Quietus giving MP return, like what 5% per mob hit, granted that does not help at my level at all.

Seriously why the hell did they have to nerf blood price?

To stop speed runners granted I never speed run anyway except on very rare occasions...