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  1. #371
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Regardless it's in their right to ask for more money based on current market conditions instead of one that is 2 years old.

    Not disagreeing that a lower cost might be better for you guys but expecting it to be the same as it was is unrealistic SE is a business first and foremost.
    You're right, business is not an honest thing, it makes people spend money on something they will not be able to use later...
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  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    snip.

    You understand that problem is not the price itself, but they it was done after 1 month of SB, without any warning, after we bought expansion...they just forced many people to spend a lot of money for them to not be able to pay anymore. Yes. Is they would notify is before SB release about it i would never buy it.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velxeor View Post
    If so, then why the prices for other games have not changed in Steam?
    SE is obviously the one wanting the change, the regional steam thing was probably an oversight on SE part but they allowed the price to stay as is even though they were making alot less money on subs then they would have over 2 years if the currencies hadn't changed so drastically.

    Eventually they were going to bump up the price of a sub and they decided on the USD value maybe with enough outrage they will lower it but it's probably not going to go back to what it was.

    I agree timing wasn't great though.
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  4. #374
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    From the source I got, apparently FF14 isn't the only one to have been seen with this increase of price.
    "Regional taxfees change, valve just adjusts (most likely by algorhytm). Publisher have to manualy set it back to the price they want it to be and loose the Cut they make.
    Valve does not decrease their Profit, the Publisher has to or use other distribution channels"
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  5. #375
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    SE is obviously the one wanting the change, the regional steam thing was probably an oversight on SE part but they allowed the price to stay as is even though they were making alot less money on subs then they would have over 2 years if the currencies hadn't changed so drastically.

    Eventually they were going to bump up the price of a sub and they decided on the USD value maybe with enough outrage they will lower it but it's probably not going to go back to what it was.

    I agree timing wasn't great though.
    It's right. They had less profit on the Steam subscription. Sadly, the SE do not understand that the Steam platform spread the game more than it could spread on its own.
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  6. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velxeor View Post
    At the minute, players from Ukraine could use the Russian Steam and get a Russian regional subscription, now Ukraine does not have this
    I'm pretty sure Steam will ban you for trying to play "oh, I'm suddently in another region" card. We could use Mogstation to buy optional items for cheap though (through Russian friends), but, in all honesty, people from all across the globe could do the same.
    Which is, I think, another reason for a price change (from Square point of view).
    What I'm trying to say is that people from many countries which aren't US or UK and have pretty much the same salary as Russia or Brazil were paying 15$ from the start. (And yes, I agree that changing price without warning is unfair.) Not that I'm on the "let everyone pay the same big amount of $$$" side of the barricade. I'd prefer that Ukraine and other countries were paying less too, and prices weren't calculated so roughly.
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  7. #377
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    It seems like many of you are missing the point here. It is not about "fairness", it's about scamming users.
    Were SE aware of our countries devaluation - yes.
    Was they planning to bring subscription price in line with other regions - as we see now yes.
    But they did not informed their customers about this, not when they announced Stormblood pre-order and not when people could still get a refund on it.
    Now this raises a serious question - was it also their intent that we can't get a refund now that time passed. Beacuse if this doesn't sound like a scam to you, i don't know what is.
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  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laertiades View Post
    I'm pretty sure Steam will ban you for trying to play "oh, I'm suddently in another region" card. We could use Mogstation to buy optional items for cheap though (through Russian friends), but, in all honesty, people from all across the globe could do the same.
    Which is, I think, another reason for a price change (from Square point of view).
    What I'm trying to say is that people from many countries which aren't US or UK and have pretty much the same salary as Russia or Brazil were paying 15$ from the start. (And yes, I agree that changing price without warning is unfair.) Not that I'm on the "let everyone pay the same big amount of $$$" side of the barricade. I'd prefer that Ukraine and other countries were paying less too, and prices weren't calculated so roughly.
    If you do not know, but the average salary in Russia is 500-700 dollars and in Europe is 1500-2000. Where is the same income? Russians now pay more than Europeans
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  9. #379
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    Which Europe? The 3 big countries? Or the dozens smaller ones? Because in the dozens smaller ones the average salary is in the same ballpark as in Russia.
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  10. #380
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronys View Post
    Which Europe? The 3 big countries? Or the dozens smaller ones? Because in the dozens smaller ones the average salary is in the same ballpark as in Russia.
    And at the same time all work only in these 3 countries))
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