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    0811's Avatar
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    Eberhild Langdale
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    People are saying SAM doesn't have utility, they have that slashing debuff. That's more than what us monks had before.

    On a side note, monk feels bad to play now. ;w;
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    ElasmoFan's Avatar
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    Seirenes Seabringer
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0811 View Post
    People are saying SAM doesn't have utility, they have that slashing debuff. That's more than what us monks had before.

    On a side note, monk feels bad to play now. ;w;
    I think the issue with slashing for sam is the same that was with the int debuff previously for monk, where it's not the only job that can do it, thus why it doesn't really get counted.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0811 View Post
    People are saying SAM doesn't have utility, they have that slashing debuff. That's more than what us monks had before.

    On a side note, monk feels bad to play now. ;w;
    It's also a dps loss for the SAM to use any point before roughly 30 seconds, as SAM loses on literal hundreds of points of potency.

    You can't call that degree of ham stringing utility.
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0811 View Post
    People are saying SAM doesn't have utility, they have that slashing debuff. That's more than what us monks had before.

    On a side note, monk feels bad to play now. ;w;
    Ninja is always in a party and is always going to be using their slashing debuff.

    Warrior also has a slashing debuff even if people are saying it's bad now.

    There will realistically always be a non-samurai in the party that will give a slashing debuff so honestly I wouldn't call it utility, it just so happens one of its required Sen combos also happens to have a slashing debuff.
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    Ninja is always in a party and is always going to be using their slashing debuff.

    Warrior also has a slashing debuff even if people are saying it's bad now.

    There will realistically always be a non-samurai in the party that will give a slashing debuff so honestly I wouldn't call it utility, it just so happens one of its required Sen combos also happens to have a slashing debuff.
    Other classes benefit from it, 2 of which you will always have (tanks). I'd call that utility. It isn't much, but it is a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frowny View Post
    Other classes benefit from it, 2 of which you will always have (tanks). I'd call that utility. It isn't much, but it is a thing.
    See my previous post on why this is factually incorrect.
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