SAM out classing all other DPS

[Blacktestament7]

No single job right now is that overpowered at all and clearly encounter balance isnt a concern in this game with how you could light grind stuff like a1s.

I get what your saying but theres balance already and if your answer is to nerf one class into oblivion for balance that imbalance all on its own. Your just gonna take a longer route to get there.

[Galvuu]

True, many buffs are low.

As for Mnk 3.x, it wasn't ignored for not being over the top dps with no buffs, just the other buffs were to good. Many still played Mnk and Mnks found spots in farm pfs, unlike casters.

Sam and Blm can both remain top dps, just not by such a large margin. And some buffs should not only be restricted to buffing physical dps imo.

I'm pretty sure it's SAM>>MNK>NIN>BLM right now... not sure where you're getting BLM is second or whatever.
It's funny, because in 3.4/3.5, MNK was actually better than BLM/SMN. It had higher dps than either of them, and unless you were progressing, once you had the fights on farm/were well-geared, neither BLM nor SMN provided any crucial utility (hence the best comp being NIN/DRG/BRD/MCH by very far, as far as dps is concerned).

[Ringabell]

SAM was released 5min ago and people are easily claiming top DPS with it. And the rotation is easy as pie.

Other jobs have been nerfed for less.

[Shiroe]

I'm pretty sure it's SAM>>MNK>NIN>BLM right now... not sure where you're getting BLM is second or whatever.
It's funny, because in 3.4/3.5, MNK was actually better than BLM/SMN. It had higher dps than either of them, and unless you were progressing, once you had the fights on farm/were well-geared, neither BLM nor SMN provided any crucial utility (hence the best comp being NIN/DRG/BRD/MCH by very far, as far as dps is concerned).

1) Ment without physical buffs or other buffs, Sam = Blm > Mnk ..
2) in 3.x, for speed runs/meta, it was with out a Mnk.., but Mnks could still get a spot in such pfs sometimes, just because their dps was good and used the mch "buff", while casters had way smaller chances to get in such pfs at all

and that is a bit of a problem .. again, too much physically buffs, bad for casters, again.. and Sam uses most buffs to the fullest

[Kacho_Nacho]

SAM was released 5min ago and people are easily claiming top DPS with it. And the rotation is easy as pie.

Other jobs have been nerfed for less.

The thing is maybe the developers want samurai to the top damage dealer. Also, anyone who plays a samurai seriously will tell you it's priority list is pretty involved at level 70. Heck, even at 60, it is a challenging priority list. I like that!

With all that said, I agree we will likely see samurai getting a nerf when the next patch comes through to bring them in line with the rest of the damage dealers. My gil is on a 5% nerf overall with monks and black mages getting buffs in approx. the same amount.

[Fyce]

No single job right now is that overpowered at all and clearly encounter balance isnt a concern in this game with how you could light grind stuff like a1s.

I get what your saying but theres balance already and if your answer is to nerf one class into oblivion for balance that imbalance all on its own. Your just gonna take a longer route to get there.

Let me rephrase.
You seem to be a MNK main, so no matter what you do, no matter how hard you try, a SAM player with the same skill level as you will constantly be between 10 to 15% above you.
To a DRG, this difference in DPS jumps to 15 to 20%.
In short, if you want to buff every DPS job to be roughly at the same level as SAM, you need to give everyone (but SAM, obviously), the equivalent of apermanent AoE Balance effect or a regular one for the worst jobs.

If you think that: 1) it doesn't make SAM OP, and/or 2) encounter balance won't be drastically affected, then you are completly delusional.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

So basically, nerf SAM until its no longer the best DPS, then all the other DPS that have utility will outshine it, and it will be kicked out of the meta, cuz people werent happy not being on top of the parse.

[Aomine1992]

The rotation isn't that easy, and I've had ninjas and monks keep up with me and got out dps'ed by a black mage sooo it depends on people knowing their rotation on those other classes trust me there are some horrible SAMs

[Fyce]

So basically, nerf SAM until its no longer the best DPS, then all the other DPS that have utility will outshine it, and it will be kicked out of the meta, cuz people werent happy not being on top of the parse.

If they want SAM to be the best DPS job, then they are welcome to do so, but make them something like 5-8% better than the second DPS. Being higher is ridiculous.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If they want SAM to be the best DPS job, then they are welcome to do so, but make them something like 5-8% better than the second DPS. Being higher is ridiculous.

Wasn't that what everyone said monk was, and it was in the same position you now want SAM to be in? Everyone cried monk didnt do enough DPS to support its lack of utility.

If you are wanting to nerf the only utility SAM has, then nerf every other jobs utility into the ground. No more SMN or RDM battle raise, no rdm heal, no battle litany, nothing. Make every DPS just straight up dps, and thats it.