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    Brannigan's Avatar
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    In 2.xx, PLD was king and WAR was 2nd class.
    Not defending the "paladin was bad so it's their turn" position but warrior wasn't "2nd class" after 2.1. I'd actually say it was stronger than paladin in both positions and that only community perception (i.e. how bad players view the game) held them back.
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Not defending the "paladin was bad so it's their turn" position but warrior wasn't "2nd class" after 2.1. I'd actually say it was stronger than paladin in both positions and that only community perception (i.e. how bad players view the game) held them back.
    I have never played warrior, but I was a PLD in 2.xx and I remember the grief they got. I also remember seeing a lot of PLD/PLD and WHM/WHM.
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    Naomi Enami
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    Snip.
    Yeah, I wasn't commenting against you. But using your comment because you were being reasonable at how classes take turns at being FotM. My point was that FotM changes, but it's never a justification for bad balance after or before it changes.

    WAR became a much better tank than PLD since 2.1. And for those that played legacy (1.xx), WAR was better because bosses ignored mitigation and the WAR's fat HP and self healing was better for handling those mechanics.

    But just as such, in FFXI (FF11), PLD was the only tank and WAR, even though it had the tanking abilities necessary to tank (PLDs and NIN had to sub WAR to get Provoke and Defender), couldn't tank for jack. Using that logic, PLD should be deleted here because it ruled the tanking throne in FFXI for 15 years. Which is absolutely silly.

    ~Phoenicia~
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