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  1. #1
    Player
    Supersomething's Avatar
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    Zivah Relana
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    Zalera
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I mean every class is at risk for nerfs no matter what. Better option would be to consider what buffs or changes the other two classes need instead of declaring the sky is falling. Paladins certainly have an abundance of utility since I last played when ARR was brand new. We have a lot of great MT and OT abilities, which to be fair the Paladins main role since ARR was to be a Tank archetype, while the Warrior could fill DPS roles to a certain extent and tank as well. I think the more productive thing to do would be to consider what the DRK and Warrior need to bring to the group so that they are just as lucrative a team member as a Paladin is currently.
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    Dj_Seaghost's Avatar
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    Revy Strauss
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Pld do not need a nerf, the other two need a buff. DPS order Should be War>Drk>Pld but all within 50-100 of each other played at max capacity, there has to be a sacrifice for having better mitigation (pld) and less mitigation (war) and the middle ground (Drk). It shouldn't be Pld best of both worlds, but I'd hate to see them get a nerf (though that Oath Gauge, what is the point honestly?)
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    Dizzy_Derp's Avatar
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dj_Seaghost View Post
    Pld do not need a nerf, the other two need a buff. DPS order Should be War>Drk>Pld but all within 50-100 of each other played at max capacity, there has to be a sacrifice for having better mitigation (pld) and less mitigation (war) and the middle ground (Drk). It shouldn\\'t be Pld best of both worlds, but I\\'d hate to see them get a nerf (though that Oath Gauge, what is the point honestly?)
    You a 1 or 200 dps difference is not going to convince anyone to ring a war it has no use in raid. You bring pld be side it has all the utility then some, you bring del because it is the only tank siuited to pull the boss and can shield the boss as ot. War though? Nothing, seriously nothing for you group. It needs to be doing around 500 more dps to even start to think about bringing one.
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    Kiria Kurono
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Honestly PLD is fine where it is now. I can see them maybe toning down the potency for HS but other than that the job is in a good spot. They should buff/tweak WAR and DRK though.
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    Amanda Lashaquoa
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 70
    Yeah PLD doesn't need this much DPS, they use a one hand sword and a shield, this is out of proportion, they should be THE weakest class, even behind healers cause healers use modafawking magic.
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    Dj_Seaghost's Avatar
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    Revy Strauss
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AmandaLashaquoa View Post
    Yeah PLD doesn't need this much DPS, they use a one hand sword and a shield, this is out of proportion, they should be THE weakest class, even behind healers cause healers use modafawking magic.
    They shouldn't be behind healers, they also use magic when fighting with their swords. It should be War>Drg>Pld all very close in dps. More on the more mitigation(less dps) vs less mitigation(more dps) sacrifice
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dj_Seaghost View Post
    It should be War>Drg>Pld all very close in dps.
    Poor Dragoons that are behind tanks in damage! :P
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    Last edited by Atreides; 07-01-2017 at 04:22 AM.

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    Dj_Seaghost's Avatar
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    Revy Strauss
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    oops lol of course I meant DRK, but on that note drg could use a little more dps
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    Last edited by Dj_Seaghost; 07-01-2017 at 04:22 AM.

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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    Poor Dragoons that are behind tanks in damage! :P
    Well, their agro management against the ground is off the charts so they have to be balanced out in the tank meta somehow.

    Yep, that's right. I'm dropping some old school lol, drg love.

    Bonus.
    Q: What did the the DRG say when he zoned into an all dps group for PotD?
    A: Don't worry, I can tank the floor.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 07-01-2017 at 04:57 AM.

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    Tila Beauguerre
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    PLD's dont need a nerf, other tanks need a buff. And no "PLDs were weak for HW" is terrible logic. The game should strive for balance, not fotm. As it stands, PLDs offer better everything: easier to pull off DPS, higher baseline mitigation, higher active mitigation, WAY higher utility. DRKs at least bring some utility and have higher MT DPS. Then we have WAR who offers zero utility and while they can pull of equal levels of DPS compared to other tanks, they also have to go through a lot more to do so.
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