SAM out classing all other DPS

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

Most likely Sam will get toned down a bit.

But in the end, it really doesn't matter. The average player (90% of this forum) can't even play the easiest classes to a proficient level, let alone a a class like SAM that somewhat more difficult to play. So people will always complain, whether a class is good or bad.

[Deithwen]

Just a kind reminder for the ones posting that video about 4600 dps, read the video description which says " i think depending on critical SMR(314lv) 3min dps 4100~4600"

And you realize this is a very lucky parse with high crits on high potency skills. A parse that does't represent the average dps, and is not relevant in a long fight.

Also it was below 3 minutes.

Also keep in mind that Nin and Mnk have similar dps, a bit lower but not by a lot. But I guess it's easier to scream "nerf that class!" than actually trying to understand.

[Lastelli]

Tbh as I see more parses from other jobs I'm starting to think that sam actually needs a buff. Right now it's in the same spot mnk was in before sb. There's even a rdm at 4400+ dps somewhere.

[RichardButte]

I'm guessing that groups that want speedy kills with high DPS/inflated parses will pick a SAM for their group. If for nothing else than for those inflated group parser numbers.

It will be interesting to see what the new raid meta will look like. Some jobs, I feel, have already solidified their spots in raid metas (such as BRD because of its immense utility, and AST because everyone loves Balances). For the others, it will be interesting to see how the meta develops.

Agreed.

I'm on "wait and see" mode right now, but I know MCH is going to be laughed out of raids without some serious buffs right now: parses below BRD with next to no raid utility.

If SAM stays this way, I can see SAM stacking becoming a thing for DPS races.

[Dzian]

People can stop being sheep and just play the jobs they like. Whether SAM gets nerfed or not, I know I'll follow it to the end. Because it's simply the job that I actually like.

It's on my list. I'm thinking of making it my main dps job over ninja just because it has no positionals.. which if I recall correctly was something that attracted a lot of players to it originally. was quite the uproar when they added positionals in heavensward if I recall.

assuming of course they don't repeat what they did with ninja and add positional requirements to samurai.

Most likely Sam will get toned down a bit.

But in the end, it really doesn't matter. The average player (90% of this forum) can't even play the easiest classes to a proficient level, let alone a a class like SAM that somewhat more difficult to play. So people will always complain, whether a class is good or bad.

Sam looks to be one of the easiest to play right now because it has no positionals at all.

[Shurrikhan]

It's on my list. I'm thinking of making it my main dps job over ninja just because it has no positionals.. which if I recall correctly was something that attracted a lot of players to it originally. was quite the uproar when they added positionals in heavensward if I recall.

assuming of course they don't repeat what they did with ninja and add positional requirements to samurai.


Sam looks to be one of the easiest to play right now because it has no positionals at all.

It has two positionals already, on each of its 3-step combos. They're just adjustments to resource generation rather than raw potency.

[HoLoFoNo]

It's on my list. I'm thinking of making it my main dps job over ninja just because it has no positionals.. which if I recall correctly was something that attracted a lot of players to it originally. was quite the uproar when they added positionals in heavensward if I recall.

assuming of course they don't repeat what they did with ninja and add positional requirements to samurai.


Sam looks to be one of the easiest to play right now because it has no positionals at all.

S-should we tell him?

Samurai has positionals which increases accumulation of the kenki gauge. Not doing them will still result in a dps loss.

[Dzian]

S-should we tell him?

Samurai has positionals which increases accumulation of the kenki gauge. Not doing them will still result in a dps loss.

oh stand corrected all I've done is look through the job skills and noticed no mention of any positional requirements on any of its skills

[Mavrias]

If another class having a bigger number sometimes takes all the fun out of your class for you that's kind of pathetic.

[Lastelli]

oh stand corrected all I've done is look through the job skills and noticed no mention of any positional requirements on any of its skills

Be warned: sam skill ceiling is quite high. You can do pretty good damage even if you're not playing optimally, but perfect use of hagakure and kenki + sen management is not easy at all. Also optimal play requires the correct use of third eye, which means that you have to know exactly when aoe damage is coming. I was a nin main in creator savage and previously a mnk main and I honestly think that sam skill ceiling is higher than these jobs' during heavensward.