Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Zaldaria]

i main WHM but might go to RDM or sam if these changes are this bad on the 16th i wont wine about it or freak out about it just 1 less healer on my server

[Sanghelios]

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WHM has much worse MP management than AST and SCH. AST can technically put a mp card on himself and even extend both mp card and their shrouds by another 10 seconds, wich then gives them mana for days. On top of that the card could potentially buffed beforehand to last longer/be stronger. AST even has noticeable lower MP costs overall...
As soon as you get a fight that exceeds 5 minutes WHM is running dry on mana and needs help, wich then lowers other peoples dps (Brd needs to stop requiem and whatnot) while AST and SCH can easily take care of their mp pool by themself.

Edit: AST also got Lightspeed (Granted i dont know if it is still a thing in SB), wich reduces mana costs by another 25%. Did i mention you can extend this one too? Dont tell me WHM has best mana management.

[Aegidus]

i main WHM but might go to RDM or sam if these changes are this bad on the 16th i wont wine about it or freak out about it just 1 less healer on my server

Get out of here with your logic. lol
But for real, I'll probably just play something else for awhile, Samurai and Paladin both look awesome for Stormblood. Now I'll get to be the one standing in aoe and yelling "heal me :V"

[Exiled_Tonberry]

'Viable in raids' in reference to WHM is like saying of a restaurant 'No one has had food poisoning'. That is the bare minimum requirement for all the jobs in FFXIV and not a good indication of quality.

This, sooo much. WHM is indeed viable. But it's the worse healer you can pick by far.
It's such a copout phrase that forces people to shut up about it, but doesn't solve any of the issues at all.
And I hate it that SE of all people are the main ones saying this crap.

[Reiryuu]

This, sooo much. WHM is indeed viable. But it's the worse healer you can pick by far.
It's such a copout phrase that forces people to shut up about it, but doesn't solve any of the issues at all.
And I hate it that SE of all people are the main ones saying this crap.

Not just that he said it, the way he said it. It wasn't a "Hey, relax, we looked at the feedback, we made some adjustments, you'll be fine." It was a "Meh. We know what we're doing. Deal." =/

[javid]

huh?

• What are your chances of getting an Ewer draw? 1 out of 6 every 30 sec.
  
• What is the priority of your card system? DPS!!
  
• Is Ewer dps? NOOO!!
  
• Can you guarantee to have an Ewer card exactly when you need it? Yes, if you're willing to neglect your dps priority of your card system!
  
• What AST in their right mind would sit on their Celestial Opposition to extend the Ewer card usage? Apparently you
  
• Which Cooldown offers more efficient MP management "Thin Air" or "Light Speed"? Thin Air...guy, be serious.
  
• What does AST have comparable to Assize in terms of MP!!!? NOTHING.... (please don't say ewer... u can't guarantee it every 60 sec, it doesn't amount to 10% of your Max[someone fact check this please], nor is MP regeneration the priority of your card system)

Also you said AST/SCH ....but you only proposed [false] evidence for AST's superior and DEPENDABLE MP regeneration.

But before you even go there, let me help. Aetherflow mp regen got nerfed, but at least you got lucid dreaming now....the end.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...s_across_jobs/

[MagnificentOxen]

Not just that he said it, the way he said it. It wasn't a "Hey, relax, we looked at the feedback, we made some adjustments, you'll be fine." It was a "Meh. We know what we're doing. Deal." =/

Just like 2.0 Warrior or 3.0 AST. Gotta keep complaining til it's fixed, 6 months later.

[SuzakuCMX]

BUT HAVE YOU CONSIDERED....

TFW your Sleeve Draw gives you Extended Ewer

[Kethic]

I'm going to enjoy blasting through 60-70 as WHM. I'll likely try to get into Omega as early as possible while people are less picky, and try to unlock as much of it as possible before the inevitable sideline, after which I'll use the exp bonus to level a raid useful class. God I hate saying that.

[Seraphyna]

I'm going to enjoy blasting through 60-70 as WHM. I'll likely try to get into Omega as early as possible while people are less picky, and try to unlock as much of it as possible before the inevitable sideline, after which I'll use the exp bonus to level a raid useful class. God I hate saying that.

I'm not even going to touch it.

When Heavensward came out, I so did not like all the nerfs to WHM so I didn't level it. I went through and lvled lolDRG to 60 first. We had no healers in our FC so I finally leveled it.

But this time, no. I'm not even touching it. I'm putting down my cane for good.

That whole "you need to get to 70 and raid before you decide".. just no. I just closed the LL after that. Showcasing certain jobs and not releasing prelim patch notes just says to me that you don't want us to know beforehand what you have done. And that it IS THAT BAD as we fear.

It's the same excuse whenever they break a job and expect us to just "go with it". Just NO SE. We are telling you NO.

I truly believe at this point Yoshi needs to be replaced. Broken PLD. Broken WAR. Broken BRD. Broken AST. Broken DRK. Now completely dead WHM. See a pattern here? Why are jobs consistently being broken? Why can't they seem to manage and even out the jobs? Why is this such a problem for them? It's always majorly break a few and boost others through the roof. There is no middle ground with them.

You know, we were going back and forth between buying two different games expansions, this and ESO's. I think we bought the wrong one.

You blow this out of proportion lol. None of those jobs were "majorly broken." They were always viable

Viable to play DOES NOT MEAN not broken or optimal to play or offers anything other than it's primary function. Sure it can heal.. and??? That's viable. That's all it is. Viable. It offers NOTHING else.

And I'm sure people who mained those jobs would say otherwise.