Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Mahkii]

Agreed HoTs have to remain most MP/gcd and potency/gcd efficient in order to remain pertinent in any game. HOWEVER do the math on AST HoTs to instant cure gcds they are much worst than WHM.... they could still make ours worst

AST in this situation sets the baseline for what we really need. Everything that WHM can do on top of that in terms of healing is wasted mp, wasted time, and wasted raid damage.

[javid]

AST in this situation sets the baseline for what we really need. Everything that WHM can do on top of that in terms of healing is wasted mp, wasted time, and wasted raid damage.

I......as a true WHM.... loathe the idea that a hybrid class that suppose to be COPYING US.....would be OUR BASELINE for anything!!!

[ToasterMan]

I......as a true WHM.... loathe the idea that a hybrid class that suppose to be COPYING US.....would be OUR BASELINE for anything!!!

I'm of the opinion that it shouldn't be a hybrid job at all. Both Secs should be completely removed. AST shields, if any, shouldn't be anywhere near SCH's. It's identity should have just been providing buffs to the party with cards. I think the lord and lady card mechanics is pretty good. That should defiantly stay

[Keridwyn]

I'm of the opinion that it shouldn't be a hybrid job at all. Both Secs should be completely removed. AST shields, if any, shouldn't be anywhere near SCH's. It's identity should have just been providing buffs to the party with cards. I think the lord and lady card mechanics is pretty good. That should defiantly stay

I don't think that AST needs their sects removed. The original idea for them was that if you didn't have a WHM or a SCH an AST could bring the utility (HoTs/Shields) of the missing class at a slightly lower level and to compensate for that here, have some card buffs! That idea is still a good idea to have. The problem has come in that their HoTs and Shields are comparable (or better) than the classes they originally adopted them from on top of all that utility. The trick for AST is to figure out a way to scale that back a little bit without returning them to the low point they were at in early HW.

Honestly WHM is overall lacking in utility and identity, SCH just had one of it's big draws (AoE dps) nerfed heavily, and AST is overtuned compared to the rest of us. It shouldn't be about taking things away from these classes as that is how we end up all homogenized together. We need to keep the things that set us apart from each other.

SCH shields should be THE standard for healing shields cementing them as the mitigation healer coupled with, a decent dps kit, and strategic buffs like the crit up from Chain Strategem and you know what, even Haste since it works better with their class identity in FFXIV.
AST is and should be the swiss army knife, providing a variety of buffs and their sects that allow them to cover the gaps the other healers leave open WITHOUT eclipsing them entirely. Their shields should be a little weaker, their HoTs a little less potent, but their basic heals should remain competitive.
WHM is the iconic FF healer, bringing potent and reliable heals backed up a few unique support skills like Auto-Raise and Reflect (there are a ton of buffs not in game we could be using).