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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Trine View Post
    Divine Bension is right on, this is the type of thing we need. I think the Stormblood kit was moving in the right direction with Assize and Tetra but we needed competitive raid utility too in the wake of AST's cards.

    There needs to be better DPS options for WHM, Stone spam, and Aero resetting looks to be the plan for 5.0. White Mage's #1 priority should NOT be damage but it's completely unfair to relegate us to this place where we can't even come close to the DPS of SCH and AST. There's no way that there is enough development time to address all the concerns the community is having, but we've been discussing the problems with the job for more than 2 years. These changes will make White Mage players at 70 a downright detriment to the raid.
    Stone = Malefic = Boil
    Aero = Combust = Boil
    Aero 3 = X = X (i think SCHs lost their comparable, not 100% sure whats up with Miasma 2)
    Holy = Gravity = X

    Everything else is OGCD not spammable, you guys probably overtook SCH as the best DPS healer, hell AST might have pulled ahead of them as well, and thats sad cause our personal DPS was bad. Also I think SCH got the short end of the stick on OGCD DMG as well now. Tho you are no longer the only one who can heal and damage in one click (technically still true Star bombing may req 2 clicks but not the point). But you are definitely the best equipped to spam DPS given you have the only decidedly native personal DPS buff out of the healers, as Thin Air can be used solely on DPS if one wishes.
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Yet the scenario does exist does it not Javid? Players in DF will die obviously. Who will they Blame? Us obviously its DF.

    Why is it In every expansion Whm seem to get hit?
    Since 2.0 we had the most nerfs.
    -Our Holy got nerfed twice, PoM got nerfed, Fluid Aura nerfed.
    With our abilities being moved to cross role we are forced to take very specific abilities back just to get some utility.

    -We also seem to lose 10% healing potency on Regen, Med II, Med, and Cure III with our Divine Seal being moved and replaced by a 20% one. We lost ProShell, We are losing SS, We lost other traits.
    In SB the Lillies are lackluster, Our new "SS" is wasting 3 Lillies, How lackluster Pienary seems to be.

    -Yet the only changes we are told are 100% on Cure II proc, or potency increased on Cure and a Benediction 2 minute buff. "WOW IMPRESSIVE"
    Now even the Role System we need to take back Swiftcast, Protect, Lucid Dreaming, Esuna, Largesse. We have the most limited options for this role. We also have the lowest number of abilities as well.

    This expansion is supposed to be "Balance" and the reason why we didn't get another Tank or Healer. Yet Whm got the short stick again.
    Remember the playerbase who were "OverReacting" to War 2.0, Monk, Astro 3.0, Bard and Mch 3.0, and Paladin 3.x series.

    We want Utility Not Spear. We don't want Buffs to Cure I and Cure II again. Stop Nerfing us.
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 06-08-2017 at 06:41 AM.

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    Mahkii's Avatar
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    Elyenorae Rush
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    Goblin
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    Go look at the new trailer that came out today. At 4:17, what ability animation is that?

    https://youtu.be/gEsKncw1u7A?t=4m17s
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    Last edited by Mahkii; 06-08-2017 at 06:51 AM.

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    Dante Haiwindo
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahkii View Post
    Go look at the new trailer that came out today. At 4:17, what ability animation is that?
    the AST one? that's "Lord of Crowns" The Minor Arcana Direct DMG Card.
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    Graid Striker
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    I thought of a concept that could have been cool, and given the White mage a little more identity.

    What if when activated the lilys could be placed on the field underneath you and in turn could be either picked up by party members for self healing or activated (while on the field) to do something else? I just feel like we should visually see more from the white mage, plus this would make them the only mage that could potentially heal after death, that sound pretty pure to me. Of course I know something like this wouldn't be implemented anytime soon considering the time. but I think the concept would have been pretty cool, imagine how detailed you could get with that. Timing when to place them, where to place them, could they aoe? how long do they last, what else could they do?

    I mean if we wanna use lilies, then lets show em off!
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GraidStriker View Post
    I thought of a concept that could have been cool, and given the White mage a little more identity.

    What if when activated the lilys could be placed on the field underneath you and in turn could be either picked up by party members for self healing or activated (while on the field) to do something else? I just feel like we should visually see more from the white mage, plus this would make them the only mage that could potentially heal after death, that sound pretty pure to me. Of course I know something like this wouldn't be implemented anytime soon considering the time. but I think the concept would have been pretty cool, imagine how detailed you could get with that. Timing when to place them, where to place them, could they aoe? how long do they last, what else could they do?

    I mean if we wanna use lilies, then lets show em off!
    Interesting start, put some more time into it and come back with it.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahkii View Post
    Go look at the new trailer that came out today. At 4:17, what ability animation is that?

    https://youtu.be/gEsKncw1u7A?t=4m17s
    That looks like Pulse of Life to me, complete with the kneel we do when we set it off
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahkii View Post
    Go look at the new trailer that came out today. At 4:17, what ability animation is that?

    https://youtu.be/gEsKncw1u7A?t=4m17s
    4:17 is the new "draw all" ability that they get.

    But I assume you're talking about WHM, which is at 4:21, and that's their limit break.
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    4:17 is the new "draw all" ability that they get.

    But I assume you're talking about WHM, which is at 4:21, and that's their limit break.
    Haha, you're right. That is their lb3 isn' it? Oh well.
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