Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by dark494

You missed the point, and what I said. That content, especially raid content, is 8-man content. There's always 2 healers. It's not about designing any 1 healer to be able to handle it. But rather something that can only be handled by both healers, together. That's why I said both healers spamming.

But why would I bring a WHM when I could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

Originally Posted by Mahkii

But why would I bring a WHM when I could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

This will be the thoughts of possibly 80% of premade groups for 8man raiding and the 24 man super savage. (i can see people kicking until they get the healers they 'want' not what they're 'given' by DF/RF)

Originally Posted by Mahkii

But why would I bring a WHM when I could have The Balance and Chain Stratagem?

Because you're overselling chain stratagem as a buffed version of battle litany, when it could likely be a garbage version of it that isn't worth bringing (multiplicative vs. additive).

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

I'll be laughing too, because even if it did have crazy healing requirements in raids, WHM can't handle it any better than AST can. Or or you going to be that one guy casting Cure II fishing for confessions while your entire party gets nuked. (And even Plenary can't heal everyone, only those with confessions stacks lmao)

I'm getting kinda tired of people skipping over the part where I said both healers. Not something that can be handled by any 1 healer by itself.

Originally Posted by dark494

I'm gonna laugh when we get content that does repeated tank busters or raid aoe's for a full minute requiring both healers to spam cures/medicas over and over and over again to deal with it.

I find this whole thing just funny. Like back before HW came out how everyone was all over how "dead" and "garbage" DRK was. And then the raiders took it and got world first with it, and it immediately became the meta tank that pushed out pld. And received no significant changes for the entirety of HW.

This is just crazy kneejerk reactions.

I'll be laughing too, because even if it did have crazy healing requirements in raids, WHM can't handle it any better than AST can. Or or you going to be that one guy casting Cure II fishing for confessions while your entire party gets nuked. (And even Plenary can't heal everyone, only those with confessions stacks lmao)

You're aware that there are Players from ALL Play types here on this? From Casual to midcore etc weighing in on this subject?

The point is: with the changes that have been released (numbers modified or not, and some major modifications will be needed so that AST doesn't overshadow WHM like it already does now) there is CONCERN for where WHM is going. There's even the Concern on the JP forums, though they are being as polite and reserved as always on it. points there are made that make them concerned.

Looking at other traits throughout the game, lowering the CD of our spells...Is not even unique to us.
Aetherflow recast has a chance to be lowered just by using Aetherflow skills.
Lightspeed has a chance to decrease its Lightspeed CD.

What is the point of lilies even? Someone tell me why we needed lilies to do exactly what AST and SCH can do for free? The more I analyze the lily system, the more I wonder what the point is. Was this literally just to give us a UI? Just throw us some random job mechanic just so we fit in with the rest of the jobs getting unique UI? I would have preferred nothing over this uninspired mess of a system.

In my opinion, I feel as though white mage should have regeneration on some or all of their abilities, and that this regeneration can be increased using the lily mechanic. I don't know, just a thought, but having the mechanic only rely on Cure 1 and Cure 2 is, in my opinion, a major oversight, especially when you're usually healing the tank with those spells.