Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by 13unny

Again WHM wasn't gutted in terms of skills, Hurts more when AST/SCH both lost Aero. On top of that since WHM has so many mana regen skills now they do not have to take Lucid Dreaming and can simply take Largesse where AST/SCH might not able to even take that if Esuna becomes a thing or Rescue.

...WHM has so many mana Regen skills now? What do they have other than Assize? Thin air isn't MP Regen, and Assize doesn't benefit from the CD reduction unless they somehow have 3 lilies gathered up.

Aside from that, yiure really saying WHM hasn't been gutted after losing half of it's abilities with nothing in return? Right now, SCH and AST has nearly double the amount of abilities in their toolkits. You're telling me that's not WHM being gutted?

Originally Posted by Aramina

You aren't going to save it. You just aren't going to use it on either of those spells. Which, as I said, if you knew anything about WHM you would already know that.

Then what am I going to use it on? Please say something worth while to back yourself up!! I mean if I am not going to use it to DPS, it seems I am not going to use it to heal or Ressing people! Please what am I going to use it on!?

For real, why was fluid aura's damage taken away? Is there a single reason that makes sense?

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

...WHM has so many mana Regen skills now? What do they have other than Assize? Thin air isn't MP Regen, and Assize doesn't benefit from the CD reduction unless they somehow have 3 lilies gathered up.

Aside from that, yiure really saying WHM hasn't been gutted after losing half of it's abilities with nothing in return? Right now, SCH and AST has nearly double the amount of abilities in their toolkits. You're telling me that's not WHM being gutted?

Depends on how you want to look at it! You can group them up or not! If at 100% mana you do not need regen! That is how I view at it, since it keeps you from spending the mana in the first place it is really saving you all that mana that you would other wise have to regen! I mean I know you can break them apart!

How do they have double in their tool kit? Who really cares about protect you're going to cast it then remove it from skills over something else (unless high deaths are happening). AST/SCH both lost 2 dots vs WHM 1, eye for an eye and virus were already weaker on WHM them SCH. HAve to think of it this way WHM got nothing but really swift class and 2 nerfed skills since had no traits for those skills! Now they can have skills that might do something. Even ones they lost are buffed so they got more buffed skills Sorry fail to see how gutted when they got better skills then what they had before from base/cross class.

Originally Posted by Verdan

For real, why was fluid aura's damage taken away? Is there a single reason that makes sense?

They removed all CC skills damage! Same goes for other classes that had these skills. They could be planning where they become useful again and simply want players to stop using them for a silly free extra damage, and to be used as what they were made really in mind to do which was CC things.

Originally Posted by Verdan

For real, why was fluid aura's damage taken away? Is there a single reason that makes sense?

To discourage using it for additional damage. Same reason why a lot of ocds that weren't meant for damage had their damage taken away.

Originally Posted by Verdan

For real, why was fluid aura's damage taken away? Is there a single reason that makes sense?

They also removed it from MCH's Blank shot. The HOPE is that this means you'll actually be able to knockback things other than trash mobs, because the damage was always sort of a consolation for when you couldn't.

Something to keep in mind is that since it does no damage it can no longer miss, but since they're taking accuracy away anyway I guess that doesn't really matter anymore.

Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

To discourage using it for additional damage. Same reason why a lot of ocds that weren't meant for damage had their damage taken away.

Problem is WHM never used it for anything else. It now sits on our bar as a virtually dead skill. Because honestly 90% of groups will not thank you for knocking something back. It and Repose were buttons I honestly thought would be pruned in interest of removing button bloat.

Originally Posted by Keridwyn

Problem is WHM never used it for anything else. It now sits on our bar as a virtually dead skill. Because honestly 90% of groups will not thank you for knocking something back. It and Repose were buttons I honestly thought would be pruned in interest of removing button bloat.

I used Blank Shot a lot as a MCH to reposition a wayward mob back into the dogpile either when the healer pulled aggro or when a ranged mob decided to plant itself out of range. Granted this was easier for a DPS to do thanks to what they're focusing on, but knockback is still handy, just not something you need all that often.

Also who knows, maybe we'll get something like Nael again where we want to knock a golem away.

Honestly even a tiny bandaid like letting us control when we use the Lilies would lift a great deal of the grief. An ability on a 1s recast that MUST be activated in order to consume Lilies. Then we could control their flow. Also make the recast reduction much more substantial. 4% will NEVER be useful.

Divine Benison's recast 1s, and make it so that 1 DB = 1 Lily consumed. Then we could save it for a big mechanic. 1 Shield for MT, and then 2 others for either both healers, or 1 healer and 1 tank.