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    Skiros Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    They completely and utterly failed to balance White Mages for Stormblood

    All of the following is written from a raiding perspective. I don't care how WHMs are in dungeons.

    1. ASTs are getting a free 900 potency AoE heal, better than Assize. ASTs are also getting a new 500 potency cure and 15% boost to healing across the board in diurnal stance.

    2. Diurnal AST is now equal to, if not better than, WHMs in terms of raw healing.

    3. ASTs still have unnerfed cards and a new ability that gives more cards per 120s.

    4. WHM's lily mechanic is procced by Cure 1, and Cure 2, two healing spells where you actually ACTIVELY want to use as little as possible. The majority of your heals comes from Regen, Tetragrammaton, and Medica II. Yet the lily mechanic is tied with heals you don't want to use.

    5. WHM's lily mechanic is RNG-heavy. So on top of not wanting to cast Cure1/Cure2 too much in the first place, you might not even get lilies since the chance is 20%.

    6. WHM's Lv70 AoE heal ability is procced based on another layer of RNG.

    Now,

    - WHM's heals are based on RNG (AST's **utility** is RNG but not their heals)

    - WHM's system actually encourages you to overheal, waste GCDs that could've been used to deal damage, and play unoptimally to make full use of it

    - WHM's heals are actually worse than Diurnal ASTs potency-wise

    Square Enix, what were you thinking?

    BTW, I've looked at other jobs on MTQcapture and was really impressed and excited about the changes. Really love the PLD abilities. So this clearly isn't an issue with them being unable to balance jobs. It seems that their vision for WHM is completely wrong from the very foundation which is why no amount of balance is going to fix it unless they got rid of that vision.
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    Last edited by Skyrior; 06-01-2017 at 02:39 AM.

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    Patricia Nirvana
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Kinda sad really how they didn't add another healer in SB because they wanted to balance the healers and White Mages seem to be entering SB in a very bad state.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Snat View Post
    because they wanted to balance the healers
    This line is more and more hilarious by the moment, in that 'laughing but it hurts' kind of way. "We're not going to introduce anything new so we can balance the existing healers"... and they make it even worse than HW.
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    I might feel a bit better about the lilies if White Mages had a trait at level 1 that refunds a percentage of MP for the percentage of overhealing on a target.

    Cure II a Warrior for 1,000 when they were only missing 300 HP? Get 70% of Cure II's MP back.

    At least then you're really only wasting a Global Cooldown.
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    You know what could have fixed this? A cool trait where when you healed an injured party member with a single target spell they gained a small damage boost for a few seconds.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The whole RNG on heals is bad mojo when the others don't have any RNG on their heals. You don't bet the raid's life on RNG.
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    The whole RNG on heals is bad mojo when the others don't have any RNG on their heals. You don't bet the raid's life on RNG.
    Galvanize is on RNG. It's why crit is almost the only important substat for scholars.
    (1)
    Oooh, shiney...

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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Well raiders are not usually "casual" players which is what this game caters to.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Well raiders are not usually "casual" players which is what this game caters to.
    The problem is the meta filters down. If anything, relatively casual players enforce said metas with more of an iron first than top tier raiders do.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Well raiders are not usually "casual" players which is what this game caters to.
    White Mage saw a drastic reduction is usage throughout Creator; half as many players cleared with it relative to the previous tiers. The trickle down effect impacted it noticeably. This only stands to get worse given the enormous backlash. In casual content, it won't matter but you are far more likely to see people mandating Astro/Sch in pug groups now.
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