Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

**Vexander** · 06-01-2017 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rawrz

RDM looking sexy with the 5k Veracure instant raise though

Keep in mind, Red Mage's only MP regen ability will be Lucid Dream.

**Snat** · 06-01-2017 02:27 AM

Kinda sad really how they didn't add another healer in SB because they wanted to balance the healers and White Mages seem to be entering SB in a very bad state.

**AlphaSonic** · 06-01-2017 02:27 AM

Why do I need such an ability? I could already deal with those things without that ability. Now I will need the ability since WHM lost Divine Seal and now gets a cross classed nerfed ability. Probably that's why they got it.

**Saraphin** · 06-01-2017 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

And may I ask where are the new abilities for WHM? WHM got 5 new abilities like all the other classes. But it was the class that lost most abilities. What replaces them?

nope, the "Rescue" that they showed off on the Teaser? that's X-Role. so ALL the healers get it. i'm not seeing ANYTHING that WHM actually gets yet...time will tell, but...they've made it so that...yeah, WHMs are going to be locked out of a lot now, i think.

**Risvertasashi** · 06-01-2017 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Snat

because they wanted to balance the healers

This line is more and more hilarious by the moment, in that 'laughing but it hurts' kind of way. "We're not going to introduce anything new so we can balance the existing healers"... and they make it even worse than HW.

**Faliandra** · 06-01-2017 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by Felis

That need 10 sec preperation time (if you want the 900 heal potency) and run out after 20 sec

fights are scripted.

a good player will figure out quickly how to time and when to use it.

edit: besides, WHM's Cure III is 550 potency .... even if you dont do the 10 sec preparation time,Earthly Star is still a 600+ potency heal.

**Bourne_Endeavor** · 06-01-2017 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

First off, you only build these resources off of Cure and Cure II. Your very BASIC heals. The secondary stat being even worse because only the person you heal gets a confession stack, meaning people without confessions stacks simply aren't healed.

How is this any good at all? It's locked behind way too much RNG that requires you to slam the most basic heals. Meanwhile both SCH and AST gets massive utility updates. Do you have any idea what this is going to do to their raid relevance? Hell they're not even fun to play in dungeons at this rate.

Furthermore, healing and mitigation has a threshold. Even if White Mage is arguably the strongest healer, it still has no utility worth speaking off, thus Astro and Scholar reign supreme. At this point, White Mage is a borderline hindrance on the raid scene. It can certainly handle a fight, but you are giving up significant utility for no tangible benefit.

**Skyrior** · 06-01-2017 02:33 AM

Utterly disappointed with WHMs this is shaping up to be the expansion where every static will shun WHMs.

**Sebazy** · 06-01-2017 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Xylas

I know someone that mains AST (who says WHM sounds amazing and he wants to switch to it now), and I have a SCH I backup heal as, even if the ilvl is garbage. WHM's new kit sounds fun compared to the current, and doesn't seem useless. But I'm not 70, and I'm not raiding, and neither is anyone else here.

My lot are kind of soso about the changes as a whole. The concencus in general seems to be that it could still go in any direction depending both on final last minute tweaks (Which I assume there will be some given SCH's underwhelming values) and of course the healer checks that Omega throws at us. My co healer's (Who I'd happily argue is one of the best SCHs on the server) opinion is that SCH is going to be dull with how simplified it's DPS in both single target and especially aoe situations.

**Vexander** · 06-01-2017 02:36 AM

I might feel a bit better about the lilies if White Mages had a trait at level 1 that refunds a percentage of MP for the percentage of overhealing on a target.

Cure II a Warrior for 1,000 when they were only missing 300 HP? Get 70% of Cure II's MP back.

At least then you're really only wasting a Global Cooldown.

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