Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

As a healer main and a WHM players, I have to say that I am disappointed in the direction that WHM is going. I though that there's going to be some Water element spells to help balance the lack, and the needed group wide utility, but I see that it will not the case in SB. I just do not understand how an original classic healer in this game deserved such low attention. In the spirit of WHM, I'm still going to level it up to 70, but not SCH and AST until some issues are addressed. I hope for the best as it was WHM who brought me into the game, and only fitting that it too can take me out.

Some idea for the changes:
- Have the Lily system based on the regen tick of Regen and Medica II to encourage the personal DPS from WHM since it doesn't have party buff.
- Have WHM be a restorative healer by giving some sort of party wide MP or TP regen (based on whichever is lower). The amount of regen can be based on the Lily system. This way, the healer classes will bring something different to the table with AST with pure damage buffer, SCH with crit buffer, and WHM with resources buffer.

adding my voice (post) to the crowd -- please SE, tell me there is still time to change things! There are so so many things, little things and big things that you could do right now to fix WHM. what we've seen so far is absolutely unacceptable, i cannot believe that the 4.0 WHM will even work as intended if released in this state.

Originally Posted by Azell

oh hello @Exiled_Tonberry (OP) just passing by to say i told you so on the sch aetherflow, it got a bit nerfed to 10% from 20% but there is the trait that can reduce the cd by 10s everytime a stack is used, so its still good.
ok, have fun, later.

It's not gone though, which I'm pretty sure what was said when we discussed that.

Btw as far as I know, Fey Illumination is still in the game. So Divine Seal +Fey Ilum.
All we get back is our same Divine Seal, but nerfed. It's actually funny how much SE doesn't care. It's like we're being punished.

Either way, I made my decision and I'm sticking with it. Hopefully all of us leaving healing (or even healing in general) behind opens their eyes a bit. Because this is insane.

Adding my voice as well. I've been White Mage since the closed beta of 2.0 and was hoping all the talk about White Mages getting shafted was nothing but a bunch of people crying over nothing but gosh... Looking at all the information we have now, going AST is the only way forward it seems. RIP White Mage.

Originally Posted by Ilenya

The fact you lose your stacks whenever you use your various skills it affects (Unsure why Asylum uses it. Was the skill that required?) makes it less than useful if you need the boosts now, since you want the cooldown effects early over later, plus Divine Benison is locked behind the Lilies, so you either get to shield someone, or keep the boosts to recharge, and if you use the Lilies anywhere else, you lose your shields.

There's really no reason to actively AVOID using skills we freely use anyway in order to gain a completely garbage shield. Maybe if it was like 100% of the target's max HP, AND had some kind of reflect property. AND haste. But it doesn't. Just try running a few dungeons as WHM but take Stoneskin/Stoneskin II off your bars, along with your choice of one of either Esuna/Protect/Swiftcast/Divine Seal/Shroud of Saints. Welcome to White Mage 4.0.

Originally Posted by Ilenya

Just going to note I am not a good WHM and am terrible at Divine Seal usage, so...

The point was that, while yes there is a choice, any emergency basically makes that choice pointless. Have it only remove one Lily per skill even would make it less of an issue. It'd make it somewhat similar to Aetherflow stacks, but at least you wouldn't lose all the benefits of them existing.

I'd say there's still really not much of a choice. Shields are nice but not required in most content, and any full party content will most likely group you with a SCH/AST that can deploy superior shields at any time. In a perfect world, Lilies would only be consumed through skills MADE for the system, not skills we already have and rely on. Like Divine Benis, or perhaps expending them to give single/party buffs, or self buffs? Literally ANYTHING other than what we have OH MY GOD Square Enix WHY.

On every level the mechanics are a failure. They don't mesh with the way the class is played currently, they don't promote a more diverse playstyle, they aren't easy to get, they aren't powerful to use, they aren't controllable in any fashion.