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  1. #1
    Player
    Gespenst's Avatar
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    Mie Kath
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I don't understand this at all. You took away many of our required abilities, gave them to everyone else and made us buy them back and replaced them with nothing.

    The new things you added require Cure spamming which is not something that you should be doing...

    It's like you saw there was an imbalance between the healers, failed to understand the problem and then did something that didn't fix the problem that you thought existed.

    This is awful. D:
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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yojimbo
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gespenst View Post
    replaced them with nothing.
    I think my biggest fear is how bored I'm going to be alternating straight-up damage and heals with hardly any support goodies to pad them out with. I mean, our support is bad now but having a few little bits and pieces really helps and even those got stripped down. I was reading Japanese forums and people were coming up with interesting theories about how WHMs might get an AOE form of Esuna or something to make up for the role skill frustrations, but then we just got what amounts to a weird distraction instead of something solid and revolutionary. At least some people are moaning over there as well so it's not just us who are upset about it all.

    I did think some of the new stuff sounded viable in PVP (where I shamelessly spam Cure spells like they're going out of fashion) but PVP is being reworked and this stuff won't even be usable there.

    So I don't get it.

    On the bright side I already have AST and SCH ready to go since WHM has been lagging behind both for a while in my FC challenge parties so I'm not going to have to urgently level a replacement job up to play. And if I do occasionally use WHM, I'll have so much free space on my hotbars from the skill purge that I'll be able to macro all of my favourite emotes onto individual buttons for the first time!

    It's more of an emotional reaction since WHM is special to me. Was special to me. Talk about oversimplification.
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    MizArai's Avatar
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    Yui Savage
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    And if I do occasionally use WHM, I'll have so much free space on my hotbars from the skill purge that I'll be able to macro all of my favourite emotes onto individual buttons for the first time!
    I can use WHM for running around town and doing custom emotes at people. It will have some purpose after all. *cries*
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gespenst View Post
    I don't understand this at all. You took away many of our required abilities, gave them to everyone else and made us buy them back and replaced them with nothing.

    This is awful. D:
    I play a SCH but basically this for WHM.
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    Cupcakesu's Avatar
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I don't understand why they made the Lily mechanic so boring. CD Reduction and a bad shield? Really? And no pretty floral particles to go with it?
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Goblin
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    I don't understand why they made the Lily mechanic so boring. CD Reduction and a bad shield? Really? And no pretty floral particles to go with it?
    Yeah Lilies suck to get and they don't do anything when you use them. It's an awful mechanic.
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  7. #7
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    You know what I really like? Out of all of this? That SE considers a pure healer someone that spams Cure for it's benefits.

    We speculated on so much things that could have benefited WHM even without utility, and all this time SE was simply planning to make us spam Cure spells like idiots for even more heals, or for a Stoneskin that's actually not even stronger than our original Stoneskin in 2.0.

    It's really just sad. All around it's sad. What really drives everything home is that AST heals more than them in diuarnal. How is this even a thing? Why is that happening? It doesn't make any sense at all honestly. It feels like WHM was the last job they got to and everyone was tired so they just gave them anything.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    You know what I really like? Out of all of this? That SE considers a pure healer someone that spams Cure for it's benefits.
    Highlighting that part because it's especially telling. A few possibilities come to mind:

    1. SE has not been paying attention to how players actually do WHM.

    2. SE has been paying attention to the playstyle of the worst WHMs.

    3. SE intends that WHMs will desperately need to cast Cure and Cure II due to how mechanics work in 4.0 content.

    I would like to think that they have a grand plan and know something the rest of us do not as to why this will work, but my money is on them drawing up a new WHM mechanic with the lowest-common-denominator WHM firmly in mind. Basically, for anyone who spammed Cure to the extent that Freecure actually made a frequent and measurable difference for them, this Lily crap will be right up their alley.
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  9. #9
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    Acidblood's Avatar
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    Sylvaria Molkot
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Agreed, boycotting WHM over this... not that I really feel like I would even have as much fun playing it with these changes vs. a SCH or AST, or hell, even a 3.x WHM.

    These changes should be case study in how to kill a job.
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  10. #10
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    Caelia Starlight
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    It's almost as if the same team that designed the crafter "whistle" system designed the Stormblood system for White Mage. The only thing we're missing is a buff to reduce Benediction cooldown by 10 seconds when Lilies and Confession stacks equal the same number.
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