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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    He said he doesn't like Cleric Stance. A healer is a healer. But if they took it away alot of people would get very upset.

    Kind of took me by surprise. I thought he said that healers should do DPS if they can earlier. Now it sounded like he doesn't like that idea.
    I'm confused.
    I'm not surprised. All the Jobs have a clearly defined role within the group.
    The fact that players started using the tools they gave Healers for solo play in group play is quite literally a case of creative use of game mechanics on the part of the players.
    Part of the fault for players doing that lies in the extreme raw power of healers on a per heal basis and the comparative lack of healing needed in dungeons and raids.
    Though overgearing content is partly to blame too. Healers just need mechanics similar to AST cards, in that the healer can boost the party when its not actively restoring HP. That would have been a better route in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Healers just need mechanics similar to AST cards, in that the healer can boost the party when its not actively restoring HP. That would have been a better route in general.
    This statement confuses me, because ASTs still DPS just as much as their other healer counterparts even taking card fussing into consideration. "Just focus on using cards" isn't a community-accepted excuse for not DPSing any more than "SCHs just focus on using your fairy abilities" is.

    Can you clarify what you mean by saying that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    This statement confuses me, because ASTs still DPS just as much as their other healer counterparts even taking card fussing into consideration. "Just focus on using cards" isn't a community-accepted excuse for not DPSing any more than "SCHs just focus on using your fairy abilities" is.

    Can you clarify what you mean by saying that?
    Im not sure how it could confuse you.
    I simply would like more skills and abilities on Healers that buff the party or debuff enemies instead of just "do damage yourself".
    Channeled abilities that provide massive Attack Speed buffs, short duration buffs that increase the various way your party can deal or take damage. Skills like that on Healers would be nice.
    Move away from "Healers" as a Role and push a Support Role instead. Healing damage while boosting the performance of the party.

    As for the AST cards, they're on a 30 second cooldown. Of course theres no real way to "focus on cards". Im not sure how you took me to mean that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Im not sure how it could confuse you.
    I simply would like more skills and abilities on Healers that buff the party or debuff enemies instead of just "do damage yourself".
    Channeled abilities that provide massive Attack Speed buffs, short duration buffs that increase the various way your party can deal or take damage. Skills like that on Healers would be nice.
    Move away from "Healers" as a Role and push a Support Role instead. Healing damage while boosting the performance of the party.

    As for the AST cards, they're on a 30 second cooldown. Of course theres no real way to "focus on cards". Im not sure how you took me to mean that.
    I like the idea but I have issues with it and that is purely community related.

    If DPS are not skilled, then buffing them will not make their damage respectable, so my DPS helps pick up the slack. If you propose healers should be more like ffxi brds, then how you DPS needs to be made a lot easier. it is too complex for the average person to deal respectable damage, right now.
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