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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    This statement confuses me, because ASTs still DPS just as much as their other healer counterparts even taking card fussing into consideration. "Just focus on using cards" isn't a community-accepted excuse for not DPSing any more than "SCHs just focus on using your fairy abilities" is.

    Can you clarify what you mean by saying that?
    Im not sure how it could confuse you.
    I simply would like more skills and abilities on Healers that buff the party or debuff enemies instead of just "do damage yourself".
    Channeled abilities that provide massive Attack Speed buffs, short duration buffs that increase the various way your party can deal or take damage. Skills like that on Healers would be nice.
    Move away from "Healers" as a Role and push a Support Role instead. Healing damage while boosting the performance of the party.

    As for the AST cards, they're on a 30 second cooldown. Of course theres no real way to "focus on cards". Im not sure how you took me to mean that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Im not sure how it could confuse you.
    I simply would like more skills and abilities on Healers that buff the party or debuff enemies instead of just "do damage yourself".
    Channeled abilities that provide massive Attack Speed buffs, short duration buffs that increase the various way your party can deal or take damage. Skills like that on Healers would be nice.
    Move away from "Healers" as a Role and push a Support Role instead. Healing damage while boosting the performance of the party.

    As for the AST cards, they're on a 30 second cooldown. Of course theres no real way to "focus on cards". Im not sure how you took me to mean that.
    I like the idea but I have issues with it and that is purely community related.

    If DPS are not skilled, then buffing them will not make their damage respectable, so my DPS helps pick up the slack. If you propose healers should be more like ffxi brds, then how you DPS needs to be made a lot easier. it is too complex for the average person to deal respectable damage, right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    He said he doesn't like Cleric Stance. A healer is a healer. But if they took it away alot of people would get very upset.
    Oh my I could only imagine the amount of salt that would come from that.
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    Thank you Yoshi for backing up my position lol. I don't DPS as a healer, we are there to heal not do damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    Main Class: Scholar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    I was the highest DPS in dfs here and there, it is very easy to do sub 50 actually. Handing out DPS when you can makes things go quicker. Plus I do not see why you wouldn't... and now I figured out why that picture is there......

    How in the world do you just heal as a SCH and not get board Bixillarla?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    Thank you Yoshi for backing up my position lol. I don't DPS as a healer, we are there to heal not do damage.
    ANYTIME you are over the cap, as in you are gear sync, EoS can handle 80-100% of the healing (depending on df/bosses, sometimes you may have to drop it) but in most cases if you are over geared you do not need to. I saw someone streaning me that said I was 60% or so of total healing and 80% of that came form eos in void ark, I was pretty much 100% cleric cept drooping it for a quick spell here and there.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 03-12-2017 at 11:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    Thank you Yoshi for backing up my position lol. I don't DPS as a healer, we are there to heal not do damage.
    Main job: Let my fairy heal while I auto follow and watch Netflix

    Aether really is a containment Data Center.
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    If yoshi wants healers to heal more, he should be designing more content that requires healers to be active. The way things are now, you can just regen your way through a duty. I would have no problems not DPSing if i actually had something to heal consistently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    Thank you Yoshi for backing up my position lol. I don't DPS as a healer, we are there to heal not do damage.
    You are a scholar, what do you even do in duties? Just stand there and wait for it to be over, because eos can do everything for you? I'd go nuts. If you're going to just heal, pick a more active healer at least, like ast.
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    Last edited by Averax; 03-13-2017 at 10:17 AM.

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    I don't think he can do much about cleric stance at this stage without wiping out the Duty Finder queues.
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    The war truly is eternal...
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