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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post



    Quite simply, Paladin. While all 3 can do pig pulls and gain agro, PLD just doesn't have the AoE to help kill the mobs the way WAR/DRK do.
    And this is why I dont understand why people expect people to play pali like these other tanks, I mean flash wears off , and with you doing single target damage, I dont think its suited for big pulls as well, Pali is perfect on bosses and keeping hate on single targerts it will be my go to prob on extreme primals and raids , but I just honestly hate pullin with a pali
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    What is it with those joined in 2015 being the most toxic on these forums?
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    And this is why I dont understand why people expect people to play pali like these other tanks, I mean flash wears off , and with you doing single target damage, I dont think its suited for big pulls as well, Pali is perfect on bosses and keeping hate on single targerts it will be my go to prob on extreme primals and raids , but I just honestly hate pullin with a pali
    It is still better to pull large groups with a Paladin, than it is to pull small groups with a Paladin. It's just simply better to pull large groups with a WAR/DRK, than it is with a PLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    It is still better to pull large groups with a Paladin, than it is to pull small groups with a Paladin. It's just simply better to pull large groups with a WAR/DRK, than it is with a PLD.
    For me with scorn on a 25 second cool down , I would much rather only pull 6 to 8 adds at a time with a pali I just dont feell effective even using my cool downs , I feel good about them on the extreme primals Ive done great defense on bosses , but I just dont like flash I have used it done my combos and just have seen adds just walk right past me .
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    lol, that's your problem then because unless the DPS is afk, no dungeon should take as long as 30 minutes even if the tank is only doing basic single pack pulls.
    I don't think it's a problem for most people who do that... I've left some "bad" groups before and purposely taken the penalty since I'd rather do something else, or just not play at all, as opposed to running in a frustrating group. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the time itself doesn't matter as much as the fun I'm having within a that timeframe.
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    For me with scorn on a 25 second cool down , I would much rather only pull 6 to 8 adds at a time with a pali I just dont feell effective even using my cool downs , I feel good about them on the extreme primals Ive done great defense on bosses , but I just dont like flash I have used it done my combos and just have seen adds just walk right past me .
    6-8 is fine, but really you should pull as many as you can survive with. Your DPS won't decrease, but won't increase all that much. The DPS in your group will benefit greatly - especially if you have a SMN.
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    Skaldir Bjornson
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    Well, this is enlightening.

    I am a pretty new tank. Well, new player in general. I went 34 Gladiator > 15 Pugilist > Marauder/Warrior (Now 41). I did not know how frustrating this was for
    DPS/Healers.

    My question is, though: If my gear isn't really up to par with the dungeons I'm tanking, what should I do? Do I mass pull and risk death, or should I pull in small
    packs?

    Also, how do I gear up if I'm not wanted? I assume I won't be wanted because of the small packs I have to pull. Will I be kicked for tanking like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skaldir View Post
    Well, this is enlightening.

    I am a pretty new tank. Well, new player in general. I went 34 Gladiator > 15 Pugilist > Marauder/Warrior (Now 41). I did not know how frustrating this was for
    DPS/Healers.

    My question is, though: If my gear isn't really up to par with the dungeons I'm tanking, what should I do? Do I mass pull and risk death, or should I pull in small
    packs?

    Also, how do I gear up if I'm not wanted? I assume I won't be wanted because of the small packs I have to pull. Will I be kicked for tanking like this?
    The game's to blame really. Tanks are punished much more heavily while levelling for gear being outdated than other roles. You might as well consider this a game in which you should not start off as a tank.
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    The game's to blame really. Tanks are punished much more heavily while levelling for gear being outdated than other roles. You might as well consider this a game in which you should not start off as a tank.
    I see. This is really discouraging.
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