Making Jobs Rotationally Easier in 4.0

[Reynhart]

Actually, that was pretty much exactly my point.

I wasn't talking about your point...but the point of putting that much emphasis on tank DPS...

Yes, the difference isn't entirely due to tanking out of Grit. But realistically, you can't really construct the sort of experiment that you're suggesting, because of the reasons that I outlined above. Nor do you need to, to understand the benefits.

We understand the benefit, but some of us feel that its importance really went through the roof. And in this game, where each time a suggestion is made, people always tend to extrapolate on how terribly it could break the game, it would be a good thing to properly judge the scale of a new "strat".

That was the same wth the Novus weapon where people were easy to spit on every relic that wasn't "Det/Crit", when in the end, even having full parry didn't change your numbers much...while costing waaaaaay less.

Is it really worth it, as a mentality, to work twice as hard for only a small performance increase ? And I'm not talking about clearly lacking skill in the most basic rotation like those frequently referenced "500 DPS tank"...

[Instrumentality]

Is it really worth it, as a mentality, to work twice as hard for only a small performance increase ?

Unequivocally yes.

[Reynhart]

Unequivocally yes.

For you...
In the end, the impact you have is far smaller than the effort you agreed to make.

[Shurrikhan]

For you...
In the end, the impact you have is far smaller than the effort you agreed to make.

Isn't that the way tapering skill cap works? As with quality vs. cost, effort tends to increase more exponentially for more linear gains in output.

For better or worse, that's been a targeted design methodology in many a game, right alongside "easy to learn, difficult to master".

[Sarcatica]

Isn't that the way tapering skill cap works? As with quality vs. cost, effort tends to increase more exponentially for more linear gains in output.

For better or worse, that's been a targeted design methodology in many a game, right alongside "easy to learn, difficult to master".

Not just in many games, it also applies to real life skills. Great surgeon not necessarily have 200% more skill than normal surgeons but the small things add up that distinguish the person to be a great one. Honestly it's the same principle for anything, generally speaking.

[Reynhart]

Great surgeon not necessarily have 200% more skill than normal surgeons but the small things add up that distinguish the person to be a great one.

Great example of an analogy totally showing what I talk about when I mention "putting too much pressure".
Or how people can take this game way too seriously.

[Sarcatica]

Great example of an analogy totally showing what I talk about when I mention "putting too much pressure".
Or how people can take this game way too seriously.

Or if you dont find pushing your limit more, maybe Savage raiding isnt for you. It's fun for me that's for sure.