Making Jobs Rotationally Easier in 4.0

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for me twintania and nael was the best raid bosses on they respectives tiers, tank and healers dps dont matter (bcs whe are a lot more busy trying to survive) and i hope we go back to that in 4.0 where i feel challenged like a tank and not like a pseudo dps-tank.

Even in ARR, tanks' DPS were still a part of the DPS checks (2 tanks contributed at least 1-1.5 of a DPS). SCH back then was more of a mitigation healer to mitigate tank busters through shields and Virus, in min ilvl t9, tank busters hit so hard that your SCH needs to have shield up to mitigate BUT in a full ilvl (i110 for that or even i130 for lvl50), SCH is barely needed. There was a reason why quite a lot of the teams did solo tank which was to make the fight easier to do through skipping adds and killing nael before more divebombs happened, it is pretty much the same idea: kill bosses before they do anything big that are annoying to do as a group.

If you have the opportunity to play a tank so well that you literally mitigate/avoid enough damage to the point where you don't need any healing, it would be a far better testimony of your tanking skill than any uber DPS number you could achieve.

But that's far from the fact because healers still need to heal you up no matter what. You WILL always need healing no matter how "tanky" you are, FFXIV is just not that kind of game that allows you to be the impenetrable wall. You have to deal with it. What better testimony of a tank is mitigating fluff damage that constitute the same amount of healing needed anyway? You can test how long you can survive in any content without a single heal perhaps.

Note: maybe you should try Savage and see how good of a tank you can be that actually requires no heal at all. You might be able to cheese some of the easy facerolly contents and be your own healers but Savage just doesn't allow that.

No, it's not. Alex NM is the best time to force people to improve on their job. You can't make everything faceroll, then kick everyone's butt when they enter savage. It's called a learning curve.

Alex NM is not great to force people to improve. How many people here actually have cleared A9S? The fight is basically a dummy fight with a few mechanics here and there and people still fail at it. The curve is still steep, quite a lot of people still regularly fail at Faust Z when it's literally just a walking dummy fight. Dazzling, isn't it? And to think that A9S A10S were all down in i240s. Gear can't buy skills yo.