Alexander 12N Tuning

[Lareine]

A11 was harder than A12 but both aren't very hard but you need at least one competent healer and one that can at least hit their aoe heals once in awhile while not trying to consume the floor with their face. I really hope they dont nerf it because as a whole itll make the community better.
#healangry

[ADVSS]

A11 was harder than A12 but both aren't very hard but you need at least one competent healer and one that can at least hit their aoe heals once in awhile while not trying to consume the floor with their face. I really hope they dont nerf it because as a whole itll make the community better.
#healangry

So many deaths to prey, so so many deaths to prey

[Mature]

I'm Ast and I solo healed that fight. I don't think there's an issue there tbh. The fight is fine

[Izularia]

The fight is fine, just a huge healer check. I cleared it on my second attempt without any trouble as we had great healers who knew what to do.
Yesterday, I tried to help a friend clearing it before the weekly reset, but our healers kept dying to the lasers and there was no chance of reaching the end like that.

[Aquaslash]

Learn to play

Real talk, we can say this all we want, but the sole issue with this and other difficulty things is that the game doesn't properly teach you how to play your class. It gives you some basics on your role but nothing at all on your actual skill set. THEN when you get stomped to much you get echo which basically gives you a big enough stat boost so that you cna face roll your way to victory.

The idea is that there are supposed to be numerous viable builds like borderlands, and you play your own way, but that falls flat on its face cause there's literally only ONE way to properly play each job.

You can say "oh people shouldn't be spoon fed and do research" but that's bull. If there is only one viable way to play every class, then yes, they should be taught how to play this way. I'd suggest that once you hit max level, there be a series of quests that basically teaches you your rotation and all that and ends with an exam that basically says "do X damage/healing/mitigation/aggro to win". This would naturally gate you until you clear it, but you'd be a stronger player for it.

[Dumbledoremd]

And there is a mode for challenge, it's called savage. Normal mode should be for experiencing the story.

It's people like you that will ruin Ffxiv you dont want any kind of challenge

[MrsFluffyButt]

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The game shouldn't tell you how to play. You should take the time to learn your role properly with a high level of skill instead of moaning and crying behind huge walls of excuse ridden text, like this one for example.

[Frowny]

It's people like you that will ruin Ffxiv you dont want any kind of challenge

So much this. Savage is on the complete other end of the spectrum. Not like Alex is required.

My only gripe is, from what I've seen, is weakness or brink of death can cause a prey to be an insta kill. Had a run where he LOVED me and I ate some floor. Maybe a small tuning there or something, otherwise the fight is a perfect mix of difficult but not "omgwhatsgoingonholdme".

The game shouldn't tell you how to play. You should take the time to learn your role properly with a high level of skill instead of moaning and crying behind huge walls of excuse ridden text, like this one for example.

THIS. It is an MMO, with a community... network. Or, I saw you have a DRG... there are a few WONDERFUL guides that can take any rookie to a decent dragoon. The game gives you the tools, but after 50/60 the training wheels come off.

[Andres_Lonegrief]

I'd suggest that once you hit max level, there be a series of quests that basically teaches you your rotation and all that and ends with an exam that basically says "do X damage/healing/mitigation/aggro to win"

I think SE should release a few "official guides" about Rotations or strats (at least for the 2.X and 3.0 contents) as I'm not sure that we are playing everything as intended.

Still, the OP was saying that there's just too much pressure on the healers and healing is not something you can learn through guides, it's situational. There's no a rule of thumb to know when to use benediction or essential dignity. It's just a matter of good sense and experience, which can be gained only if the fight remains as difficult as it is now. We need to accept that contents will become more complex and that if we don't have the requirements (iLVL, skill, time etc) we should wait or train harder.

[Aquaslash]

The game shouldn't tell you how to play. You should take the time to learn your role properly with a high level of skill instead of moaning and crying behind huge walls of excuse ridden text, like this one for example.

You must mean the drivel you just posted, because games have been teaching you how to play since the dawn of time. Tutorial modes. Have you heard of them?

This game isn't as rigid as something like Destiny, or Borderlands, or any class based game where there are multiple correct ways to play a subclass and each are equally effective. There is generally only one way to properly play each job, teaching that very basic thing isn't the worst thing to ask for. Every halfway decent game already does it. That's like saying you should HAVE to buy a strategy guide to be the best at a game. You sure you don't work for any publishing companies?

Meanwhile...

I think SE should release a few "official guides" about Rotations or strats (at least for the 2.X and 3.0 contents) as I'm not sure that we are playing everything as intended.

Still, the OP was saying that there's just too much pressure on the healers and healing is not something you can learn through guides, it's situational. There's no a rule of thumb to know when to use benediction or essential dignity. It's just a matter of good sense and experience, which can be gained only if the fight remains as difficult as it is now. We need to accept that contents will become more complex and that if we don't have the requirements (iLVL, skill, time etc) we should wait or train harder.

This guy is right on the ball. Learning a rotation is just the basics. The real test is going to come from applying what you've learned to each battle, and then adjusting appropriately. There's no guide in the world that can tell you that save for the school of hard knocks. Then and only then is when true skill will begin to manifest itself