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    Player
    Zigabar's Avatar
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    Sanura Tsukishiro
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    My SCH friend just said last night that A12 is really fun to heal. He hasn't said that about puggable content in a long time. Please leave it alone.

    #PuGLyf
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    A mentor stole my house, slapped me across the face, and raised my ping from 15 to 30. Literally unplayable.

    Quote Originally Posted by AriKitae View Post
    I would advise against the “you pulled it you tank it” shtick. Try diplomacy first. “Please allow me to pull the mobs.” [...] While the deeps is wrong for pulling ahead, you certainly aren’t right by not doing your job.
    #GetSelliBack2016

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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Velhart Aurion
    World
    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    People really need to learn that failure is an option. SE caters so much to content that can be beaten in one sitting that any fight that actually requires you to step up above minimal skill of your job, people come and complain here on the forums. If you do not like working with people in DF trying to learn the fight, then form your own party in PF or with your friends.

    How can we get actual challenging content that isn't raids in this game if people come in and complain that anything above face roll easy should not be in the DF? It is baffling. This is why things like the relic quests and dungeons are so stupid easy.
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    Character
    Scyi Rea
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I like all the heavy damage and debuffs and all the mechanics and the music, I actually like all the new floors x)
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    FunkYeahDragons's Avatar
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    For story content it's difficult, but I don't think it's unreasonably so. The big damage that goes out is things like a single tankbuster or Mega Holy, which you have ample time to shield/heal/Virus/Disable/Eye for an Eye. If someone fails a mechanic immediately before or after yes it's possible they could die and require a raise, such is life.

    A lot of the difficulty is people not being familiar with the mechanics and being in the process of gearing up this patch.

    It's better than Weeping City to me, as in an 8-man I can bring my own tanks or a couple DPS if I'm cranky and just want to get things done. In Weeping City, I can't always control who tanks the Dehaka to make sure they don't spin it around and cleave everyone. The effect of me bringing 1-3 DPS of my own is nowhere near what it is in A12. A12 is nowhere near as frustrating as the 4th run wiping on Forgall in a row with no ability to do anything about it.

    Don't even get me started on that place...

    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    A11 was the messiest. 1 of the DPS accidentally released after being KO'd by the active time event but we still pulled through the second half in spite of only having 7 players and several more deaths.
    Our BLM went down with his Leylines. It was the noblest thing I've ever seen.
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    Last edited by FunkYeahDragons; 10-06-2016 at 03:11 AM.

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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    People have problems healing this? How...do you fail so hard at it? I SCH'd this and I don't raid much as healer, it was a pretty easy fight to heal through.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    People have problems healing this? How...do you fail so hard at it? I SCH'd this and I don't raid much as healer, it was a pretty easy fight to heal through.
    If people keep standing in the stupid and eating things they're not supposed to, yes, healing can be quite difficult.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    If people keep standing in the stupid and eating things they're not supposed to, yes, healing can be quite difficult.
    They were doing it and I STILL found it easier than A11.
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    Centershock's Avatar
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    Character
    Yuji Kiritani
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    They were doing it and I STILL found it easier than A11.
    Admittedly, I found A12 easier than A11. But I also found A8 easier than A7.

    Your mileage may vary.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Second week. Ran it today on my main and one of my alts. Getting ready to do another after expert. The fights went pretty well. It's really fine once people know the mechanics. It's fun and I look forward to running it each week. Been lucky and got a drop each time I ran it so far although no minion yet.
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    No. Please, dear god. A12N does not need ANY tuning. It's the first/second week of release for these new Alex raids, no one should expect to get it right the first time. I know I didn't. Just study the fight, please.

    It is fine as is.
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