Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
You pay 12.99 to access the world, not to have everything handed to you on a silver platter. That is what veteran rewards are for. That privilege you speak so lightly of is from people who put in the hard work to have it. Work that most are not willing to do but for some reason feel just as entitled to it.

If you cannot put in that kind of effort, then you need to acknowledge where you are in the progression chain, which is not at the end. When I played WoW before raiding, I always saw characters who had this really top notch Heroic gear and sometimes Legendary weapon that really showed off who was the best of the best. I in no way felt entitled to that gear at all, I know that person sweat blood and tears to get to where he was at.

If I am going to stress myself out doing these really hard dance routine raids that a lot of times tests my patience, then yes I do deserve that privilege that casual players shouldn't have.
I'm not sure if you didn't read my whole post or if you're just ignoring it.I personally don't feel entitled to get the gear without doing anything for it, and if you get a super awesome "legendary" weapon or a certain item because you beat something super hard,I don't feel entitled to get it and I don't feel bad at all for not having it, but savage gives a WHOLE set of items that are unavailable to 90% of the players, it's not a single special item, it's a whole set and it gets farmed till everybody has theirs on each and every alt, so yea I don't think it should be anything else but a recolor with higher itemlevel, I do however think that there should be something else there as a reward at the end of savage aside from just a simple achievement.

Maybe it's because there generally is such a lack of choices when it comes to gear... There is always only ONE set of gear with a certain iLvl when a new patch comes out.
For me it makes sense there is a gap in iLvl between endgame and casual, but if you don't want a sour feeling over your effort not being meaningful, a casual or midcore player doesn't want to have that sour feeling either, and trust me, we have it too.
Grinding tomes is not rewarding, the gear that drops in the new dungeons is meaningless unless you have an army of alts to equip. By the time the weapon upgrade to i230 (7 weeks) is possible, we don't even "need" it to clear the content, since the iLvl is already high enough to faceroll through everything anyhow, the i240 upgrade now even more useless... we actually have even less to do than you.