I guess it's time

[Velhart]

But... you pretty much did lol

Really? I don't see it. I said no job in FFXIV currently is not allowed in like how FFXI treated jobs. PUP was very notorious for not being allowed in end game groups. Am I wrong? I didn't say no one ever brought a PUP in. It was true most groups did not let them in. You can twist my words around if you want, but am I wrong?

[Braden]

Really? I don't see it. I said no job in FFXIV currently is not allowed in like how FFXI treated jobs. PUP was very notorious for not being allowed in end game groups. Am I wrong? I didn't say no one ever brought a PUP in. It was true most groups did not let them in. You can twist my words around if you want, but am I wrong?

You are wrong. I knew many who played pup.

[Seraphix2407]

Really? I don't see it. I said no job in FFXIV currently is not allowed in like how FFXI treated jobs. PUP was very notorious for not being allowed in end game groups. Am I wrong? I didn't say no one ever brought a PUP in. It was true most groups did not let them in. You can twist my words around if you want, but am I wrong?

You can't compare ARR's job balance to FFXI's. There is no job currently in the game that is on the side line. At worst there are preferred set ups based on your party composition, but there is no job that is straight up not allowed in end game like FFXI's. Go ask Puppetmasters if you do not believe me. And don't pretend in FFXI it was an elitist thing, even midcores had this concept.

I might take it the wrong way tho. FFXI had some super weird balance, that tank jobs was turned into tanks and support/dps turned into tanks; rdm and ninja for example. FF14 is EASY, because it's all about dancing with the mechanics. Mind me, I just did nidhogg normal through trial and guy with akh mohn started running away from everyone else. Or the DRG who used 3 jumps without buffs after the tank pulled.. It really does make me cry.