I guess it's time

[Dorander]

I already said pages back that I would gladly go back to FFXI, but it is no longer the same game. They changed it far too much with ilvl, small servers that need merging, etc. Lol Seraphix2407, I think Dorander is a lost cause, and keeps passively telling people to quit :/ Funny thing is apparently that is against ToS to tell someone to quit in game. >.> But anyway, nah people are just giving good suggestions and things they'd like added, optional things, like everything else in FFXIV.

That is what this forum is for, suggestions and feedback to help the devs stay in touch with their players. And no...no one is "burnt out" per say, they are tired of playing the same game with a different skin since 2.0, so they are offering constructive ideas. Discouraging people from doing that..and encouraging them to just leave and not say anything is a really poor idea. Again, I've never got "burnt out" on a hobby of mine before, why would I? They are always enjoyable, no matter how many times I partake in them.

Ah, also..again, I have completed everything in this game and feel it is still lacking things in terms of diversity and longevity. So..can't use the "you dont do all the content" card on me really :x

And I haven't seen anyone "championing" FFXI, I have seen people state facts, that they never got bored in XI. The fact of the matter is, there was content in 1.23/1.x series that have some longevity, the dev team can do it, they just do not for some odd reason. I also dislike how its acceptable to mention WoW here, but mention FFXI and prepare for crucifixion. Well whatever, I for one will keep giving suggestions and letting Yoshida and the devs know how I feel to help them know what people are thinking. Yoshida seems genuinely interested in what people have to say and is a good listener, so it is worth a shot

It's only against the ToS to aggressively tell people to quit in a harassing manner. I'm just suggesting if you aren't happy, and things "don't look to be changing in a way you like" why not take a break or find something that better suits your gaming needs?

So, if I look at your lodestone I should see all jobs at 60, all the achievements done for all the relics, all savages done, everything in the gold saucer done, ect ect ect. Alright, if that's what you want to claim, sounds like you all but live on the game if you've completed everything. /golfclap

Please feel free to voice your suggestions, maybe they'll listen to you. If they don't.. /shrug

Here's another 'Fact.' - I hated XI. Forcing players to party just to level past 10, and even then it was nothing more than a grind at that. Depending on the class you were playing as you had all of one role. Generally just to spam one skill over and over. So if that repetitiveness didn't bore you, and what FFXIV provides does.. I honestly have nothing to say.

[Iromi]

Nah, it's against ToS to tell people to quit in any manner. I had a guy suspended for 72 hours for saying that to me. I know this because he sent me hate emails with screens of it lol. I thought it was strange..but someone in my FC was like "Actually, you can report him for that..I got suspended for a few days for telling someone to quit lmao" and sure enough >.> I actually reported him for following me around non stop, but they wouldn't do anything..so I called GM when he told me to quit..it worked lol. He bothers me no more.

And yup..if you can manage to find me, you'll see that I have truly done everything, on two characters, and my boyfriend as well On XIV pads back in the day we were #1 for a while there on achievements. Although I will certainly not be posting my real characters on here due to stalking issues I've had in the past. It really is not worth it to me to prove a point to a fellow I do not know online. >.> Not saying you'll stalk me, nonono..just...there is others..anyway, that doesn't really matter haha.

As I mentioned earlier, by no means do we have "no life" , if you must know..I am an actress in NYC and the BF attends NYU Tandon, pretty demanding lives...it is just about time management, its easy lol. I have many, many friends who would gladly post and attest to that too, but I will not bug them to come here and post. I am showing them this thread though in telegram XD

and last..if you did not enjoy FFXI, that is fine, to each their own! For me it was a great experience, I made life long friends, had fun playing (Yes it also had some bad, but it had lots of good too) and wouldn't trade it for the world

FFXI was not repetitive in the least to the point where it was boring for me. The people, events, etc all of that made it very dynamic! Life can be repetitive, that is a really silly argument, imho. etc...

[Dorander]

Nah, it's against ToS to tell people to quit in any manner. I had a guy suspended for 72 hours for saying that to me. I know this because he sent me hate emails with screens of it lol. I thought it was strange..but someone in my FC was like "Actually, you can report him for that..I got suspended for a few days for telling someone to quit lmao" and sure enough >.> I actually reported him for following me around non stop, but they wouldn't do anything..so I called GM when he told me to quit..it worked lol. He bothers me no more.

And yup..if you can manage to find me, you'll see that I have truly done everything, on two characters, and my boyfriend as well On XIV pads back in the day we were #1 for a while there on achievements. Although I will certainly not be posting my real characters on here due to stalking issues I've had in the past. It really is not worth it to me to prove a point to a fellow I do not know online. >.> Not saying you'll stalk me, nonono..just...there is others..anyway, that doesn't really matter haha.

As I mentioned earlier, by no means do we have "no life" , if you must know..I am an actress in NYC and the BF attends NYU Tandon, pretty demanding lives...it is just about time management, its easy lol. I have many, many friends who would gladly post and attest to that too, but I will not bug them to come here and post. I am showing them this thread though in telegram XD

and last..if you did not enjoy FFXI, that is fine, to each their own! For me it was a great experience, I made life long friends, had fun playing (Yes it also had some bad, but it had lots of good too) and wouldn't trade it for the world

Again, your reply really does sound like it was the harassment that got that person banned, but that is neither here no there. No, I have no intention of 'stalking' nor did I care to know anything more about you. I was just saying that if you look over at your profile next to everything you post - it says: Character: blah World: blah Main Class: blah

Seriously though, I'll repeat it again.. Going to have to agree to disagree. Talking in circles and all that jazz. You feel that there needs to be more. I say there is plenty with 'more' coming in each patch. Others say it isn't fun and repetitive, even more say it is fun and should stay the same.

I'm bowing out now. Hopefully your requests are answered.

[Iromi]

FFXI may be 10 years old yes but guess what, FFXIV came out in 2010, so its 6 years old. So...yeah...again, what?

and actually, FFXIV was in the works since 2005! Either way, this game has been out long enough to have diverse content, and it absolutely has the potential.

It is weird to see some people against adding more stuff..lol.

RobbieH, you get it..yup and zosia as well.

This game has dead content, dead content can't be classified as content.

I could not agree more.

[Reinha]

FFXI may be 10 years old yes but guess what, FFXIV came out in 2010, so its 6 years old. So...yeah...again, what?

and actually, FFXIV was in the works since 2005! Either way, this game has been out long enough to have diverse content, and it absolutely has the potential.

It is weird to see some people against adding more stuff..lol.

FFXIV: A Realm Reborn was published in August 2013. It has a different staff and different content. It's a different game. The previous game doesn't even exist so I don't understand why you cling onto the idea that they are one and the same. Frankly you are discrediting any proper argument you have by spewing blatant lies.

Also it doesn't matter how long it was in the works. Every game is in the works for quite some time before it's official release.

[Iromi]

FFXIV: A Realm Reborn was published in August 2013. It has a different staff and different content. It's a different game. The previous game doesn't even exist so I don't understand why you cling onto the idea that they are one and the same. Frankly you are discrediting any proper argument you have by spewing blatant lies.

Also it doesn't matter how long it was in the works. Every game is in the works for quite some time before it's official release.

They are..I was there. 1.0 launched by Tanaka, Yoshida took over within 2 months. It was worked on by the same devs and producer for 6 years, are you trying to say that Yoshida has NOT been working on FFXIV since 2010? If so, you are very wrong lol. But seeing your join date, how can I expect you to know? o.O LOL

I guess this is not true,

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...fxiv-producer/

and this too, never happened.

http://www.pcgamer.com/square-enix-s...ial-extension/

http://zantetsuken.net/articles/yosh...eaks-more-info

here is more

http://www.rpgsite.net/interview/302...-naoki-yoshida

http://www.rpgsite.net/news/859-fina...damage-control

and if you dig deep enough you can see Yoshida's original post and road map since 2010. So yeah..what? Think again next time before calling me a liar, and check facts..thanks.

Had to chime in here. XI was released in 2002. Rise of Zilart and chains of Promathia was released in a two year span. Those two expansions alone were filled with relevant content. If you want to push four years, then treasures of art Urghan.

Needless to say, the content release is very minimal in comparison. Especially if you want to deem something relevant to all players

This too, so if they do want to compare the time frame..by all means. Go ahead =D I'll take XI with RoZ and CoP over what we have now in XIV lmao.

[Braden]

Here's another 'Fact.' - I hated XI. Forcing players to party just to level past 10, and even then it was nothing more than a grind at that. Depending on the class you were playing as you had all of one role. Generally just to spam one skill over and over. So if that repetitiveness didn't bore you, and what FFXIV provides does.. I honestly have nothing to say.

Hating something is an opinion. You must have never got to the lvl cap based on your comments, also in XI you did not spam 1 skill. Do some homework on the depth of just one job. Multiple gear sets and weapon skill mods, you must have played for an hour.

If the devs copy and pasted a few pieces of end game content from 11 to this game, I bet all of you arguing for no change, would love it.

[MagiusNecros]

Yeah telling people to leave the game for offering constructive criticism on how to enrich the game due to it being the same crap every patch cycle because you don't want the game to change at all is very petty.

You did the same shit in 2.0 and it reared it's ugly head in 3.0. Will 4.0 be the same?

Only reason I log in is to play with my friends and the fact I love the FF franchise and the fact on PC this is I think the only MMO or at one of the ones that offers "official controller support".

I mean after I get my completed DRK relic outside of my friends I will probably take a extended break until another expansion hits since the story is actually half-decent.

[Claymore65]

Let's put some of this in perspective. Right now, I'm only going to talk about "Battle Content", since that's what the majority of this thread is about.

• There are 29 dungeons pre 3.0, as well as an additional 14 after Heavensward.
• There are Five 8-man Raids in ARR (including one Savage version), and currently two 8-man Raids in HW, with Savage and Normal difficulties.
• There are three 24-man Raids within ARR and its patches, and two post 3.0.
• Not counting Extreme/Hard versions of fights and including Hildibrand fights, there are 16 trials in ARR along with Five in Heavensward
• Diadem and FATEs also exist

I think it's a bit disingenuous to say the "game has no content", even if we disregard crafting, Golden Saucer, PVP and other systems. There are also a good number of areas and locations in game to explore, although like most exploration content it's most exciting to explore for the first time.

That said, I totally understand the frustrations with the content. People are going to enjoy vastly different things, and no single piece of content can satisfy everyone. For example, the "Single Hallway 3 Boss Fights" dungeon structure comes from many players' desire for quickly-ran dungeons. Dungeons and trials with optional areas and the like are oftentimes ignored in favor of speed, so the Devs build dungeons to satisfy there audience. Dungeons like "Aurum Vale" are oftentimes hated due to its slightly less standard design (though Aurum Vale is a bad example, since it's kind of annoying), and many players seemingly get annoyed with environmental hazards and the like. Similarly, some players want to level quickly and gear up fast as well, while others prefer a much more slow, steady approach. There isn't really a right or wrong answer here, it comes down to personal preference. As another example, some people want extremely dangerous open world content, where going outside of a city-state can be suicide without a well-equipped party. Others prefer a more relaxed open world that supports solo players better, and find such "open world content" needlessly tedious.

What kind of content do you really want to see in the game? That's my question. Is it "More savage raids"? Is it "All the open world"? Just saying "There isn't content" isn't helpful, but saying "I want more difficult, open world content like a beefed up Diadem" is.

[Lan_Mantear]

• There are 29 dungeons pre 3.0, as well as an additional 14 after Heavensward.
• There are Five 8-man Raids in ARR (including one Savage version), and currently two 8-man Raids in HW, with Savage and Normal difficulties.
• There are three 24-man Raids within ARR and its patches, and two post 3.0.
• Not counting Extreme/Hard versions of fights and including Hildibrand fights, there are 16 trials in ARR along with Five in Heavensward
• Diadem and FATEs also exist

That's a lot of content for sure. However, how many of those are really relevant? For obvious reasons, daily roulette's don't count. There simply isn't any real incentive to run old dungeons. Hell I can't remember the last time I did Fractal Continuum, and that's post Heavensward! Content quickly becomes out dated. Flaw or by design, that's the reality of it in FFXIV.