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  1. #41
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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I'll agree that we need more storage. Things are getting ridiculous with the number of gear in the game along with all the things that drop from kills.

    In the case of gear, an option would be to expand the functionality of the armoire. Keep the section for special/holiday gear and add a tab with, say, 400 spaces for gear. Add in the ability to glamour while accessing the armoire. The catch is that you can only access it while in your home/FC room/inn room, any spiritbond is lost upon storage and item condition resets to 100% (requiring the item condition to be at 100% or higher to be storable).

    On Glamour, I agree that having 5 items that do the same thing is pointless and a waste of database space on several ends (both in terms of crafting recipes and items). That really should be condensed to 1 item called "Glamour Prism".
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  2. #42
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I can't be the only who found it ridiculous for Yoshida to say that a glamour log was impossible, and then for him to implement the Orchestrion which is exactly what we're asking for, but with glamour! He claims that a simple check would take as much as an inventory slot, so by implementing 50 songs (give or take) per patch, we're losing out on 50 inventory slots per patch? Not the case as it's not true, but I dislike how he blatantly lied. It's either that, or he misunderstood the question and thought we were asking for a retainer like system but for glamours.
    Wrong. Orchestration is 47 simple Boolean values. A glamour log would require over 4600 currently. Its a matter of freaking scale.
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  3. #43
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    Charlotte Elise
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    Kujata
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Wrong. Orchestration is 47 simple Boolean values. A glamour log would require over 4600 currently. Its a matter of freaking scale.
    I believe you missed my point entirely, 47 or 4600 won't make much of a difference when compared to an entire inventory slot per slot. That's what people are peaved about, he said it would take as much as expanding inventory slots. Would you prefer I go with "They're saying they can give us all 50 slots per patch but wasted that server space of something as menial as an orchestrion?".

    A matter of "freaking scale" doesn't matter when you cry and cry about server resources, only to implement an orchestrion across the board for every character. Either way, the amount of actual space used is incredibly small and should be doable by any competent developer, but SE is showing that they're not one of those developers. WildStar can do it and Guild Wars 2 can do it, how much do they charge you to pay monthly? Right. WoW, a game that's now over 11 years old has managed to squeeze it into their 15+ year old engine, not only that, but it tracks past items obtained from over a decade ago!

    I'm sure most of us would be happy with 500-1,000 glamour log slots if that was the only amount they'd be willing to give us, but no, they can't do that as they won't be able to gouge us for inventory slots we rent. Renting inventory slots, that's a joke to say the very least.

    Edit: This isn't even touching on the countless items they throw at us, time after time. Why do I need a separate item for accessories and the waist from Alexander Midas? Why do the head, feet or gloves need separate tokens? Why does the chest and legs need different tokens? Why is there over 30 glamour prisms? Why don't items stack over 99? Why do we have so much dyes, why not just buy a color and allow us to pick any shade? I could go on and on.
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    Last edited by Colorful; 03-08-2016 at 08:27 AM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    I believe you missed my point entirely, 47 or 4600 won't make much of a difference when compared to an entire inventory slot per slot. That's what people are peaved about, he said it would take as much as expanding inventory slots. Would you prefer I go with "They're saying they can give us all 50 slots per patch but wasted that server space of something as menial as an orchestrion?"
    Question to people with this opinion. Should we just stop patches altogether until we get inventory space? After all someone, somewhere will find every single thing menial in some way or another.
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  5. #45
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Inventory and the glamour system employed in Final Fantasy is the one thing that makes me sad. Would love it if they addressed it big time.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Question to people with this opinion. Should we just stop patches altogether until we get inventory space? After all someone, somewhere will find every single thing menial in some way or another.
    I definitely used the wrong word there, sorry. If I were to rephrase that, I would say something less important in comparison. Inventory slots are essential to gameplay and anything done to alleviate the issue would be amazing whereas an Orchestrion, while nice, isn't too important. It can only be used when in your house/FC house/inn and comes with its own set of problems that have made it so no one I know actually uses the thing. That problem with how it projects audio, not sure why they went with the "realistic" route, I use realistic lightly.
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  7. #47
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If you need it again and it's not something the Armoire or Calamity Salvager has, just go farming.
    During ARR I used a Sipahi Turban from WP and AK in my glamour. By mistake, I turned it in for GC seals thinking it was a duplicate. I've been trying to get another one ever since. Off and on I'd run WP solo at sixty and I'd sometimes get those dungeons in roulettes. On the last week I've been hitting it harder and I've run WP 19 times so far this week without seeing it drop.

    This is just one item, from an easy soloable dungeon. Imagine how difficult it could be to get a piece of gear again from one of the old 24 man raids or even a HW dungeon where you rely on queues and competing against other players for the drop.

    We need more storage slots because for many of us it isn't practical to play the game otherwise. When we make progress, we need to be able to save that progress. Tossing out a piece of gear that I want to save for glamour is paramount to throwing away hours of my time. I spent those hours to gain that item, losing the item is losing progress I've made in the game.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

  8. #48
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    Wyatt Shalott
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    talk to me. Im leveling crafters and gatherers right now and flip me. I just don't have space. it's ridiculous. and the fact that I have to pay 2 dollars more for a game I already pay for just to keep more items is infuriating
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  9. #49
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Apology accepted.
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    Don't be that guy.
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    I'm sorry.
    Apology accepted?


    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If more people think like you, we'd actually have some lively queues more often!
    If SE didn't nerf it to the ground (gear inflation, high ilvl sync) where you can brute force it and not really pay attention to any tactics, I'd still be queuing for it. But then, I would also cap out my weekly tomes on pure LotA runs, so, yeah, do the math on that.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by heynowjose View Post
    talk to me. Im leveling crafters and gatherers right now and flip me. I just don't have space. it's ridiculous. and the fact that I have to pay 2 dollars more for a game I already pay for just to keep more items is infuriating
    I'm leveling crafters and gatherers right now and I have 200 free slots in my two retainers and 25 on my inventory. Stop hoarding.
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