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  1. #51
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    HakaseNyan's Avatar
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    Suzu Hakase
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    storage diversity is a weird way to put it? I also don't love your ideas tbh.

    Frankly, I'd like Guild Wars 2's storage system.

    There is a mat's inventory from anywhere you can right click your inventory "deposit collectibles" or something. This mats inventory can hold 250 of each material I believe.

    There is a wardrobe system, so once you unlock a gear set you can just go to your wardrobe and select it to set it as your current glamour.

    Then there is a dye system where you just unlock your colours and can dye galore. The best part? each item allows you to dye multiple parts of it so it's not 1 blanket colour.

    There is a wallet that holds on to you all of your gold, dungeon tokens, and like 30 other things (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wallet)

    Then you have your inventory and your bank which is shared account wide.
    Pretty much this right here. GW2 is a buy-to-play game and spoils everyone with inventory space. You can buy/craft bigger inventory "bags" to increase your base inventory, but your actual storage is a BEAST. If I remember correctly, you can also spend the in-game gold to expand storage for non-collectible/crafting/mirage items.

    FFXIV is this weird hybrid of Free-to-Play(pay for more x) and Subscription when it comes to storage. You get 100 inventory slots to start with, and then, when you unlock the retainer vocate, you get an additional 350 (175 x 2 retainers). Then, you can go on to buy rent up to an additional 1050 slots of storage. Which still doesn't seem like enough.
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  2. #52
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    Riardon's Avatar
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    You know you can buy 2 extra retainers. 1 euro each /month. No "free" extra storage until 4.0 I guess from what they said already. You know memory/console limitations. They answered the same when ppl asked why there is no option to remove the new white circle timers on skill bars and to summarize the official wall of text it was due to "memory limitations" (PS3 too old to handle many things at once). As for the extra free storage not sure if it's too a "memory limitation" issue but "memory" can handle the extra paid retainers just fine it seems.
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  3. #53
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Orchestration is 47 simple Boolean values. A glamour log would require over 4600 currently. Its a matter of freaking scale.
    And at eight items per byte as opposed to somewhere around 26 bytes per item, that 4600 would take about as much space as 22 gear items stored individually, the way we have to now. The scale just makes the glamour log all the more useful.
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  4. #54
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    There was an interview around the time Heavensward released in which Yoshi acknowledged that the addition of a lot of extra items and three additional jobs with the expansion could make our current inventory/storage difficult, but that improving the game's storage systems was a lengthy project that they wouldn't be able to complete in time for the expansion, so as an interim measure they'd make additional retainers available.

    I (and apparently a number of other players) thought at the time that meant we'd get another free retainer, but it turned into simply expanding the maximum number of extra paid retainers we could buy. But regardless of that part, it was supposed to be an interim measure until SE could fix their woefully inadequate storage. We still, nine months after the expansion came out, haven't yet seen this real storage improvement that they were supposedly working on a year ago.
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  5. #55
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    Ah, but they DID improve storage... by allowing us to store event items right away rather than waiting a month. Yoshi-P always gives us what he promises. He just keeps the details to himself.
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  6. #56
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    Inventory / Storage improvements I think we really need in this game:
    • Glamour Log
    • Bait & Tackle Box
    • Cut back on the number of duplicates (multiple tiers of the same item)
    • Move assorted currency tokens to the currency window rather than storing them as inventory items (venture tokens, beast tribe currencies, etc.)
    • Expand Armoury Chest slightly (perhaps 5 slots per category)
    As an alternative to the Armoury Chest expansion, they could allow inventory to be used as overflow space, with the ability to equip gear sets whose gear is kept either place, and to put gear we un-equip into inventory if the appropriate Armoury Chest category is full. This would get rid of those annoying messages that we can't equip a piece of gear because there isn't chest space for it. Our regular inventory space itself I think would be fine (even including some AC overflow) if the improvements listed above were added so we didn't need to use so much of its space for baits, currencies, and so on.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 03-09-2016 at 06:52 AM.

  7. #57
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    Ah, but they DID improve storage... by allowing us to store event items right away rather than waiting a month. Yoshi-P always gives us what he promises. He just keeps the details to himself.
    And the armoire stores some stuff that's actually fairly easy to re-obtain if you drop it! I mean, I'm glad it's there and all, but it's almost like an afterthought with what you can put in there.

    Your Lv. 50 tools you got from your gathering/crafting quests? Sure, no problem. Relic weapons? Nah, don't think so.

    Artifact gear? Lock 'em up! Myth gear? Are you nuts?

    And for whatever reason, the Dream gear from the first (?) Starlight Festival is also a no-go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mykll View Post
    Apology accepted?
    Evidently not =(
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  8. #58
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    Taisai Jin
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    Know what would be a nice middle-ground for the time being? Change the Armoire so it's just X spaces, rather than specific sets like it currently is. Artifact gear, for example, is fairly annoying. Once you upgrade that to Augmented to dye it, why would you ever want the old stuff again? I'd like to store that stuff in my Armoire, but I can't, because the Armoire only stores the default AF... There are 50 spaces in that thing dedicated to Artifact gear, and if you go ahead and Augment them all those are 50 spaces you're never going to use... That is just a straight up waste...
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  9. #59
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    There was an interview around the time Heavensward released in which Yoshi acknowledged that the addition of a lot of extra items and three additional jobs with the expansion could make our current inventory/storage difficult, but that improving the game's storage systems was a lengthy project that they wouldn't be able to complete in time for the expansion, so as an interim measure they'd make additional retainers available.

    I (and apparently a number of other players) thought at the time that meant we'd get another free retainer, but it turned into simply expanding the maximum number of extra paid retainers we could buy. But regardless of that part, it was supposed to be an interim measure until SE could fix their woefully inadequate storage. We still, nine months after the expansion came out, haven't yet seen this real storage improvement that they were supposedly working on a year ago.
    Interim solutions/positions always become a permanent measure when it works, in all walks of life. Given how the paid service is acceptable, it became the solution to the matter. Any further free changes they may do is essentially treated as icing on the cake. It's unfortunate but, unless they run out of things to do, that's how things are. It's best not to expect results that are above and beyond what is immediately given to you. To have too much hope in an MMORPG, particularly when it comes to non-prioritized projects, is rather folly lol.
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  10. #60
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    I had to toss out nearly all my ARR crafting mats to make room for more equipment.

    When you have all jobs at 50-60, storage is a nightmare.
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