Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[Livaille]

Edit: 800 dps is only being carried if everyone else is doing significantly more then you. If everyone else is doing less then you are in fact carrying them with 800 dps.

No, that would mean that everyone is doing a bad job at dpsing.

Different people playing different classes, some with higher ilevels then others, all contributing. Just because someone is doing 100 less dps then everyone else doesn't mean they are getting carried.

Indeed, that depends of people's gear and job. You will obviously do a lot less dps as a 190 bard than the 210 Dragoon that's in your group.

Truly being carried is laying dead on the floor contributing nothing while everyone else clears the content.

I disagree. Doing 800 dps (as a melee dps for example) when everyone else is over 1100 is a carry in my book. Not as bad as laying dead on the ground of course, but still a carry.

"I like the idea of a professional troll though, makes me think of a hideous creature under a bridge handing out business cards."

So are you trolling this thread?

[TheUltimateSeph]

No, that would mean that everyone is doing a bad job at dpsing.

Indeed, that depends of people's gear and job. You will obviously do a lot less dps as a 190 bard than the 210 Dragoon that's in your group.



I disagree. Doing 800 dps (as a melee dps for example) when everyone else is over 1100 is a carry in my book. Not as bad as laying dead on the ground of course, but still a carry.





So are you trolling this thread?

My signature has nothing to do with the threads I post in and if you are really going to pick at that now you really do have nothing left.

[TheUltimateSeph]

I disagree. Doing 800 dps (as a melee dps for example) when everyone else is over 1100 is a carry in my book. Not as bad as laying dead on the ground of course, but still a carry.

Sorry I couldn't resist.

The 800 dps vs the 1,100 dps.


The bad dps truly being carried


Some people just have a warped sense of group participation I guess.

[Andrea]

Sorry I couldn't resist.

The 800 dps vs the 1,100 dps.


The bad dps truly being carried


Some people just have a warped sense of group participation I guess.

You know this is actually perfect. Sums up those who try and those who don't.

[Whiteroom]

Sorry I couldn't resist.

The 800 dps vs the 1,100 dps.


The bad dps truly being carried


Some people just have a warped sense of group participation I guess.

That really depends. If the average dps needed to clear a dps check is 900, then the person doing 800 is being carried. If everyone perfoelrmed at your level, would the instance fail? If yes, you are being carried. If no, then not so much. You are not contributing as much though. In extremes, that can be viewed as a carry. Also from your prior arguments, your picture would be better suited if the dps in front was giving it everything he had, while the bad dps in back only had one hand on the bar and watching netflix on his phone in the other.

If everyone is trying, as your picture suggests, then most people out their are fine with it.