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    Adolf Weismann
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
    TheUltimateSeph,

    Since you have DRG at 60, a BLM not using Enochian would be the equivalent of a DRG not using Blood of the Dragon. Both require the buff to be up to use a level 60 rotation. If a DRG lets BotD drop, they have to convert to using the rotation of shame (level 50 rotation). The same is true of BLM, if Enochian drops they are forced to convert to the level 50 rotation until they can use Enochian again.
    Oh of this I am well aware. Ironically I still out dps most people in my groups when not bothering with BoD. Hell as an experiment one time I went into Void Ark as a Lancer and used nothing but Chaos Thrust on the last boss and I was still staying at about 6-5th place on the enmity list for my party. Our level 50 rotations are still viable means of good dps. Our level 60 rotations let us do more obviously. It's what each person considers "good" I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by dark494 View Post
    You, and everyone else who thinks like you, is what is wrong with this community. It is thoroughly embarrassing that you would even suggest this, that you'd even think of defending the kind of attitude your blm had instead of sticking up for the ones who are trying to help players improve. There is no excuse for anyone, at anytime, anywhere, to conciously hold back the rest of the group and be nothing but a hinderance. Nobody gets a free pass ever to be deadweight. You pull your own weight or you get left behind. It's downright rude and arrogant to your fellow players to suggest they have to carry you and do all your work for you.

    It's an mmo, you want to act like a loser you go do it by yourself. The minute you step into anything with other players you are beholden to them to give only your best and earnest efforts, or you are wasting everyone's time and efforts by showing how vain you are.
    You are the one being extremely rude here. In the OPs screen shot the healer didn't look at all like they were defending the BLM but trying to get everyone to just drop the whole issue as it was already resulting in a fight. This is trying to keep the peace, not defending bad play. To say people like him are what's wrong with the community is INCREDIBLY rude!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Ok lets see if I can explain this.

    Hotshot doesn't lock behind it 90% of MCH rotation behind it. Enochain does. If you arent at all even popping enochian then you obviously aren't doing 90% of your rotation.

    A MCH that forgets to do hotshot now and again can indeed be top dps in a run like you said, and can indeed do pretty good dps even with forgetting it.

    A BLM cannot do either of those things without using Enochain.

    We can argue all day but they aren't even in the same league. A MCH who forgets hot shot but does everything else is trying. A BLM that doesn't use enochain is not.
    e_e I said nevermind the level 60 rotation for now. I was only comparing the boost in damage from the two skills, not rotations, since the OP wasn't complaining about rotations and a lot of people in this thread were saying at the very least they should have used Enochian.
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    Last edited by TheUltimateSeph; 01-29-2016 at 05:34 AM.