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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego3400 View Post
    And this kind of thinking is EXACTLY why Damage meters are against the TOS. All that matters is the boss dies and you have fun. Don't worry about anyone else.
    Damage meters are against the ToS because these are 3rd party software which is data-mining.

    For the second part of your statement. How much fun are you going to have if the boss doesn't die? If the tank doesn't tank more than one mob. If the healer heals only the tank? Some people have fun while wiping and trolling - shouldn't they be allowed to have fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    Damage meters are against the ToS because these are 3rd party software which is data-mining.

    For the second part of your statement. How much fun are you going to have if the boss doesn't die? If the tank doesn't tank more than one mob. If the healer heals only the tank? Some people have fun while wiping and trolling - shouldn't they be allowed to have fun?
    There is a huge diffrence between "failing" and "not doing well enough for someone else's arbitrary standards" No one will disagree trolls are bad. Nor will anyone agree wipeing all day is fun. But if you can down it, that's all that matters, not the actual numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego3400 View Post
    There is a huge diffrence between "failing" and "not doing well enough for someone else's arbitrary standards" No one will disagree trolls are bad. Nor will anyone agree wipeing all day is fun. But if you can down it, that's all that matters, not the actual numbers.
    My personal standard is a simple question: If the whole party performed at the level of the weakest link, would it be possible to progress? If no, the person has a lot of work to do.

    We could take it even one step ahead. What if the whole group decreased their performance to 50% of the weakest link? I highly doubt it would be possible to have fun in such scenario when you just want your daily roulette bonus.

    As long as the content gets cleared is a really weak and the most toxic attitude you can have. Because if the bad player had to carry someone who is half good as them... nothing would get cleared ever.
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