Okay I'm going to try to be as nice as possible with this one and think through everything before I post it. I'll do my best to make sense and write something cohesive but I'm only human so bear with me.

I want to address a couple things here, starting with my first post.

Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
With how fast people can level now days thanks to how easy SE has made it to get to 60 it's really not that hard to understand how people can not be comfortable or all that knowledgeable about their classes end game skills when they first reach end game. Give them a few weeks to start learning and get comfortable with it. When I first hit 60 with my DRG I didn't even know the extra job quests for level 52-60 existed, and didn't find out about it for a couple weeks. Thankfully the person who told me was very nice about the whole thing and while keeping BoD up (which I'm told is like an easy version of Enochian *shudders*) isn't always fun or practical I do love seeing the extra dps I can put out with it now. With all the dodging mechanics in HW endgame I can see how some BLM would not even bother trying to use Enochian. But them who am I to speculate. >_< I'll have more to say when I get my BLM to 60.
Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
You're really stretching it though if the implication is that you get no new skills for the entity of 50-60, which comes with an entire expansion, when previously you gained skills from your job NPC every 5 levels.At that point you're either severely tunnel visioning or you just didn't care for it (especially if it's going to the point of level 60, since this is the general range of the discussion). Not to mention the problem with the post you're referring to his that he basically coined knowing the fact that "you get new skills as you level" is elitism.

I mean there's benefit of the doubt, but there's even reasonable limits for that, nor was this example nessescarly relevant to the OP (where the problem was someone choosing not to use a skill and lowered their damage output as a result)
Ok with my first post I was trying to say that not everyone is comfortable with the rotations that are expected of them at end game, and that could have been one of the reasons the BLM the OP referred to didn't use Enochian. The example of myself and my own lack of skills upon reaching level 60 was perhaps off topic, I'll give you that. I was trying to explain another reason for people not using their skills that, while not directly related to the OPs situation, is related to the underlying issue as a whole.

In the end game dungeons such as Fractal Continuum and Neverreap, there are many dodge intensive mechanics and while for the Dragoon, keeping BoD up while dodging these mechanics can be easier due to the fact that we do not have cast times on our skills, for a Black Mage I am told it can be a total nightmare resulting in nothing but frustration and a headache. For example on the second boss of Nevereap I sometimes don't bother trying to keep BoD up because of how often I have to stop attacking the boss to run around picking up and carrying statues out of his aoe. It's just not practical. The first boss is somewhat difficult as well because of him disappearing for a time but that one isn't as bad. In Fractal Continuum I have seen BLMs have to choose between keeping up Enochian or dodging mechanics such as on the first boss. Several runs I have had BLMs who simply stood in his aoe so they could keep their rotation up. As I stated before I do not personally have my BLM up to 60 yet so I don't know first hand how difficult it actually is but I DO know that how difficult it is perceived to be will vary from person to person. While some may find it easy others may find it nerve racking and just use their 2.0 rotation instead.

In regards to me coining “ knowing the fact that "you get new skills as you level" is elitism.” this is not what I meant. Knowing that you get new skills is not elitism. Expecting others to know is. Expecting them to conform to your expectations for how a class should be played is Elitism. In this case, expecting the BLM to use Enochian. Knowing these quests existed and how to best play a class just makes you....more, intuitive, I guess.

Regarding the tic tac toe reference: Maybe I'm misinterpreting it or not understanding it so I'll just explain why I don't think it fits the situation. In tic tac toe there are clear rules for how the game is supposed to be played. One person uses one shape, usually an X, and the other uses another shape, usually an O. Each person will only use their assigned shape and will take turns filling in a 3x3 panel of boxes until either one person gets three across or it ends in a draw. The picture depicts three shapes being used and scribbles on part of the panel. This is clearly complete nonsense and the game cannot be played like this. In the case of the BLM the OP ran into however, even without the use of Enochian the game can still be played. The content is cleared, and everything can still get done. The only difference is how long it takes for the “game” (dungeon) to be completed. The level 60 dungeons can still be completed in a reasonable amount of time with people using only their 2.0 rotations.


I think that's all I wanted to say for now, except that for everything else with people slamming me for not having the skills at 60 or knowing that they existed, reading the patch notes, etc. I do apologize for my attitude in a lot of my responses. I have a tendency to feel like I'm unjustly being attacked in situations like that, especially with some of the responses I got and so I fire back without thinking it through and often come out sounding like an ass. It's just another one of those things I'm going to have to work on improving, along with arrogance and ignorance. I know I tried my best to be civil in this post and I hope I didn't say anything too offensive in it but I know there will still be people who find fault with practically everything I said. I won't be firing back at them anymore and I will do my best to view their responses with an open mind. I hope they can do the same for mine.

Sincerely,
Sorry for the book