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Thread: Diadem Leeches

  1. #141
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    The only issue with kick = no penalty is that you should only kick someone if they do something wrong, eg 'steal' an i210. Now, after they've got the goodies you're going to reward them by allowing them to get no penalty so they can do it to another group straight away.

    It's far more complex than other content once you start to think about it.
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  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhuni View Post
    Or it could just be so you aren't hit with the cooldown if you get kicked you know like how it is already in other instanced content, are we playing the same game? Lol.

    The feature is already in-game but they couldn't be bothered to implement it with Diadem and thought a 120 minute cooldown was more important as opposed to all the leeches and grieving that not having this feature opens up to.
    i'm sure we are playing the same game but you don't understand that that the two things are different. this is an entry cooldown to prevent people from spamming the content, you can be on the Diadem 2 hour cooldown and still do anything you want besides Diadem. the other "cooldown" is a global exit penalty for bailing on your group, when you get hit with that you're not allowed to DF anything at all.

    those are not the same thing and therefore you can't equally apply the same feature. nothing in DF drops i210 gear straight up.
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  3. #143
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    Faren Tilstein
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    God this is the classic expecting speed runs in DF all over again. If you stood up for people who demanded speed runs in DF, you were called an elitest jerk; if you stood up for people who were new/undergeared/didn't want to speed run, you supported selfishness and someone who doesn't care about the rest of the party. Whichever way you feel about it makes you wrong and vehemently flamed by the other side.

    Honestly, this is just crying showing that players need to have their hands held for everything. It's completely turning me off from running what has the potential to be fun. But just like with the speed run conversations, I'll never understand people who queue into DF and then feel entitled to harass random players for not following and agreeing with them. It's the attitude that's the problem, always has been with some players.
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  4. #144
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    Being kicked for illegitimate reasons happens far less often. It really only happens when a premade of friends joins the DF. Easy solution. Don't allow parties to join the DF unless it's a full party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by writeraeria View Post
    God this is the classic expecting speed runs in DF all over again.
    Sorry, but this is nothing like speed runs in DF. This is about expecting people to be decent to each other and not be selfish.

    It boils down to this:

    Help kill and roll on the combat rewards or do your own thing but only roll on stuff you actually contributed for.

    There should be a vote kick option with a penalty for being removed and they should be quite strict with the punishment for abusing it said feature. In a 90 minute instance that you can only enter once every 2 hours nobody should have to deal with an ass clown who thinks he's allowed to have his cake and eat it too...DF or not. If you can't understand that (directed at anyone who thinks things are fine) then you need to have your moral compass checked because I think it's a bit out of whack.
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  6. #146
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    Start a pre-made party via pf and blacklist anyone who leeches?
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bien View Post
    Start a pre-made party via pf and blacklist anyone who leeches?
    This has been suggested already but doesn't solve the issue while in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bien View Post
    Start a pre-made party via pf and blacklist anyone who leeches?
    Already blacklisted 25 people so far...

    Reasons for blacklist inc

    Needing i150-180 gear numberous times or constantly despite the pf reads greed only and the leader plus other people have said don't do it again

    Switching to gathering class despite pf reading nm hunting only

    Netflixing play, like today a whm non cs Stone............................min later..................................stone.................................................................stone, asked to contribute and proceeds to carry on

    Pf reading ignore objectives, switch to gathering class (we don't do the other ones anyway)

    Yeah problems still here and at this rate my bl will be full in a couple of weeks then what?

    Edit. Further 4 more people added to the list.....getting fed up of this
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 11-15-2015 at 02:42 AM.

  9. #149
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    All those complaining that people are gathering rather than combating - have you ever assisted a gatherer by removing mobs from nodes? If you expect them to help with your preferred content, then it's only fair you help with theirs. It sounds like a lot like people are just trying to demand everyone do exactly what they want to do, with no intention of assisting with the goals others may have. This co-operation works both ways.
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    just had some guy named mug mug stay At the start the whole match and taunt us for not being able to do anything about his blantant leeching. Se add a 7/8 kick a least. Or make it like in hunts where you need to get a hit in to get rewards.
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