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    Xenosan's Avatar
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    For PLD utility I look to Ifrit Extreme. I think that trial would be the best example of where PLD's Healer support utility could be demonstrated:


    Reverse DPS check (too much DPS done wipes the raid)
    Heal Intensive fight (DPS players being DPS players - never avoiding the avoidable damage. Moar DPS on nails == dangerous bursty incoming raid damage)
    Healer mechanic making Healers overwhelmed - especially if one of them is new or unfamiliar with the Healer debuff mechanic
    No cast bar for the tank buster. Need to know the timing

    I try to imagine if PLD had access to Clemency and Divine Veil in that Trial, and how much they would help. I feel that Clemency.. I'd sooner cast Stoneskin since I'd guess the manic'd healers would more likely Lustrate/Cure than refresh a Stoneskin. (and I did Stoneskin a lot as PLD when PUG ifrit, pretty much was OOMP most of the fight, whenever enough MP regen'd it'd go straight to a stoneskin for myself or other tank)

    Divine Veil.. Save a DPS from getting killed by a Plum? With the CD's recast.. it's be once every 3 plum sets? That's assuming the heal trigger was activated, and post-buff healers don't medica2 or other AoE heal the raid (which would dispel the barrier), and they were stacked close enough to get the shield in the first place /clap.

    That's where I'd look to DV/Clem adjustments though, yes yes PLD doesn't have these abilities for lvl50, but helps as an example for future raids that may have a similar design (reverse dps check, healer mechanics, etc) where a healer support utility kit may be desirable.

    but even if raids were designed like Ifrit again their support as is it's still a long way from being significant imo
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 11-09-2015 at 05:09 AM.

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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    For PLD utility I look to Ifrit Extreme.
    Otherwise known as the worst fight in the game.
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    Alex_Lenderson's Avatar
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    Alex Lenderson
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Otherwise known as the worst fight in the game.
    Eh? Its a bit easy for Extreme compared to Garuda and Titan (at the time) and the music was meh but I still enjoyed it.
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Otherwise known as the worst fight in the game.
    Eh, personally my least favorite fight is T9, but I'm in a tiny minority on that one I'm sure. And Ifrit EX is no Mog EX, either.
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