Thread: Warrior HP.

Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Actually it is almost universally accepted that Tanks put as more points as they can into STR. Once your HP is high enough to allow you to survive the content you are playing put all other points in STR.

But for Warrior that number is differen than for Paladin, right? Since they work differently, what I want to know is what exacly that number is at lvl 60.

Originally Posted by Uhm

But for Warrior that number is differen than for Paladin, right? Since they work differently, what I want to know is what exacly that number is at lvl 60.

No. 16k is the max you need for all 3 tanks (including WAR outside of Defiance), which is the amount of HP you get with 210 left side and full STR right side. The only time you want to go over that is if you're learning a tough fight.

you need 17k of hp without defiance to survive all tankbusters.

Originally Posted by Uhm

But for Warrior that number is differen than for Paladin, right? Since they work differently, what I want to know is what exacly that number is at lvl 60.

You'll be alright with ~16.5k-17k without Defiance (Defiance will put you at 21-22k) in all the content in the game including the hardest fights. The number is the same for all tanks. Defiance will put you at more HP but it's equivalent to the 20% mitigation Shield Oath/Grit offers so all tanks are basically gearing the same way in terms of STR vs VIT.
If you're not doing Savage, 14-15k without Defiance is largely enough. So, first put all your points in STR, then start switching your accessories step-by-step while upgrading your left-side gear. The more left-side gear you get, the more STR accessories you can wear, since left-side gear grants both STR and VIT.

Originally Posted by Twilite

Unchained(or combine it with Berzerk if even unchained on its own isn't enough), or double Steel Cyclone(better on packs obviously) will ensure aggro is yours for about 100 years.

Also Equilibrium in Defiance will add to your threat, IF you know you wont need the heal for the next few minutes.

I got 15,058HP(without defiance) with all STR except two rings. Mostly i180(I am i185) with i200 weapon.

When I'm in a sticky situation I mostly use Berserk+Steel Syclone, I always forget about Unchained if I'm not doing an opener, thanks for the reminder. Once I get my ilvl200 weapon I can probably relax a little.

Fractal/Neverreap SRs: 14k~15k*

Arboretum/Pharos HM SRs: 15.5k~16k*

A1S-A4S: 14.5k~16k

Thordan EX: 15.5k~16k

*These numbers are based on healers DPSing, mainly SCH being able to put up DoTs and Bane them comfortably.

All numbers are out of Defiance.

As for holding aggro, more STR will definitely help but the biggest proponent of being able to hold good aggro is your weapon. I'd recommend waiting another day and doing the Anima quest instead of purchasing an Eso weapon as it should be somewhere in the 200~210 range. As mentioned, Unchained is amazing for trash pulls - I use Vengeance + Unchained + Berserk + IR, then switch to Deliverance once all that is up (using Equilibrium to recover TP), then pop either Foresight + Awareness or Thrill + Convo depending on the pull, then if the pull is still going I pop back into Defiance and SW. I spam OP the whole time, but I also recommend if you have 5 stacks from a previous pull to use those for Unchained and save your Infuriate for Decimate while you're in Deliverance. I think that 2x Decimate is better for damage, but I prefer this method as my HP recovery is higher during the initial pull.

GL out there.

I agree on the hp numbers above. I've cleared everything as warrior, and i'm using full str acc, I also have full left side at i210. My HP is arround 16k without party buff nor food.

I used to mix str acc and melded acc. I've done my first clear on A3S and A4S with 4 str and 1 melded, i recently changed to 5 str.

Basically once you're arround 16k unbuffed you should be fine for everything. Funnily enough though it appears to me that the threshold is slightly higher on thordan than A4S because the damage is actually really high on MT during Thordan. But as a war you should be OT for this fight anyway. I've done it as war MT with 5 str and yeah the tank busters really hurts at the end of the fight tbh.