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    Ryel Altaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    I speak more in cases where the DPS is going slower than expected, which is when I will then speak up. An example would be in T10 of 2.X; we were often not meeting the DPS check for the second set of adds at first. When it continued, I noticed our SMN was not Bane-ing DoTs onto the other adds; I asked him if he was Bane-ing, and hey presto, next round when he used Bane, we cleared the DPS check. Another example would be a Brayflox I ran; the BLM was a fresh BLM, so they weren't very experienced. When it came to AoE pulls, he wasn't using Fire II or Flare effectively (I believe I saw his rotation as something similar to Fire > Fire II > Fire III > Fire > Fire II > Blizzard III > Freeze spam). I pointed out the better rotation (Fire III > Fire II until low MP > Flare > Convert > Fire III) and they instantly improved.

    When it comes to multiple DPS (typical of DF trials), it comes down to a comparison level as well; for example, Bismarck NM with two DRGs; one was applying DoTs and using BotD, one was not. It's not 100% efficient (I don't think I ever said it was? -goes back to check previous answers-) but after a few runs and gauging the DPS, I can typically tell who is causing the wipes/not pulling their weight sufficiently. The bolded part is very important; if the encounter is cleared in an adequate time, I won't be as active in identifying flaws.
    Your observations still come from things like watching cast bars (which not every ability has) or flashy animations, things like Bane and BotD are hard to miss generally, bane especially with it's large purple explosion. How what about DoTs? In the event of multiple (melee) jobs applying the same DoTs are you telling me you are aware the majority of the time which job is and isn't reapply DoTs consistently? Once again on jobs without cast bars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    It's funny how the story seems to change from needing to be able to see DPS who are terribly below par at like 500-600 DPS in content that requires 1000+ and suddenly when people mention.
    It hasn't?

    From the beginning i've argued all points from casual DF to endgame, you're welcome to check my post history. However the person i'm responding to has made claims about their abilities of observation i'm merely asking about the fine details. I've also said from the beginning that i don't doubt their ability but i do doubt their consistency and yeah that does apply to 4 man content where 1 DPS out of 2 may be dragging much further behind the other.

    Why does it seem like so many posters on the other side of this discussion keep trying to go for "Gotcha!" moments instead of following the actual conversation?

    Quote Originally Posted by tjw View Post
    It wasn't meant to be said to counter the subject at hand; I am neither for or against parsers. I have my own judgements on them, but my typical view is: make mine not your enemy, and I shall not make you mine enemy. Guesstimating will have mistakes; I will only speak up once I'm sure that the DPS is under-performing, usually with what I have observed. As long as I'm polite and offer tips, the DPS usually responds favourably and improved the next pull/round.
    That's fine i'm more impressed than anything if you're able to eyeball it half as well as you've been saying for the most part, like i said my posts from the beginning weren't attempting to have a go at you, I'm just genuinely interested in your perspective.
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    Last edited by Ryel; 10-12-2015 at 08:53 AM.