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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You can be Rank 50 and not be able to wear any gear because your not level 60. Logic Failed. Sorry, rank is not levels.

    Also, if that is indeed true. Then why are they working on making them work together more? You can use PVP gear in PvE, infact the stats are better for PVE then the ilvl 180 gear.
    Rank is PvP level. You need rank to wear PvP armor. What is there to not understand. You can use it in PvE, but it doesn't mean they're better. It's the same principle as PvE gear (tomestone vs dungeon drops) where they have different stat budgeting. Some PvP pieces are straight up worse than the PvE counterpart at the same ilvl.

    Yet they don't reward Wolf Marks for Dungeons, so no they aren't working for them to be the same. No one who wants good matches in PvP even like the eso rewards because it gets in the way of people actually giving a damn for the mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Rank is PvP level. You need rank to wear PvP armor. What is there to not understand. You can use it in PvE, but it doesn't mean they're better. It's the same principle as PvE gear (tomestone vs dungeon drops) where they have different stat budgeting. Some PvP pieces are straight up worse than the PvE counterpart at the same ilvl.

    Yet they don't reward Wolf Marks for Dungeons, so no they aren't working for them to be the same. No one who wants good matches in PvP even like the eso rewards because it gets in the way of people actually giving a damn for the mode.
    You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Safe to ignore.
    Move along nothing to see here. Just someone who wants free glamors. They have complained on the pvp board and no one takes it serious. They don't post from main character. Because I can't believe anyone with Arcanist 60 thaum 26 and conj 20 could be expected to be taken seriously. Oh forgot pugilist 1. They have put little effort into ranking up.

    They are right about one thing though, they could make it so the vendor refuses to sell. So marks fall to the floor so you wont be taunted by the oh my glamours. The system actually protects your marks and lets you buy. Unlike lets name two, Grand Company and Advanced marks.

    About all people should complain about is the horrible gating of the que. Someone has done the math and it is not that much effort to get to rank. It is though a pain to sit in 30 min ques meaning a two hour play time could net you three games or less. Which in turn feels unfair given that if you put 2 hours into anything you should be able to net some better reward then just under 700 xp per two hours. The system is flawed but not in the way they project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.
    because it is practically useless now and has no further meaning to pvp since the new pve equipment came out? it is nothing more than a means to glamour.

    PvP Gear just gives players an edge over others. Which is probably why they want to keep their unfair advantage because they don't want to PvP fairly.
    in wich way does it give an edge over others when the pvp ilvl of seal rock is currently capped at 150.morale doesn't change that ilvl cap, aswell as materia.

    you have no idea what you're talking about, am i right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    because it is practically useless now and has no further meaning to pvp since the new pve equipment came out? it is nothing more than a means to glamour.



    in wich way does it give an edge over others when the pvp ilvl of seal rock is currently capped at 150.morale doesn't change that ilvl cap, aswell as materia.

    you have no idea what you're talking about, am i right?
    I guess they changed it. So its completely useless now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So PvP/PvE gear has no difference really except secondary stats, which PvP gear is clearly better at. It is still an edge.
    and in which way exactly are they better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    GRRR ARRGG you have never even had the gear on to see the stat difference in frontlines.
    I'm going straight from what the other posters told me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Better stat placement on almost all pieces of gear. Gear has the most meaningful stats.

    Some of the DPS pieces have the most critical chance out of all pieces of gear.
    GRRR ARRGG you have never even had the gear on to see the stat difference in frontlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If both pieces are scaled down to ilvl 150. They will be scaled down but the secondary stat min/max will still be better. In the other places where morale works and its scaled up to ilvl 210 its better overall then Alexander Gear because nobody has a full set of Alexander gear. From what i've read from angry posters. =P
    Not all the pieces have good secondary stats. Like the ranged PvP top is saturated with skill speed, and the law version is det/crit. There's also no meaningful content that morale works in, and it's up for debate if it even works in wolves den in 3.1 for their adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    In the other places where morale works and its scaled up to ilvl 210 its better overall then Alexander Gear because nobody has a full set of Alexander gear. From what i've read from angry posters. =P
    Those places do not exist, and probably never will in a significant way. We're getting Lv60 Wolves' Den, where this might be relevant, but like I said, they will have a capped version where once again Morale does nothing, because having gear provide an edge in PvP is nonsense.
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