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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Explain why I can't use my PvP Rewards?

    Everything in the game you grind and you earn your gear or craft or anything. Every part of the game is like this and is consistent. You build up pieces of gear until you get the piece you want and you can use it until you get a full set of gear.

    Except PvP

    In every part of the game, every expansion everyone is set to the same bar to give new players the chance to catch up.

    Except PvP

    Older players have an advantage in rank and stats with better skills. They can actually use the equipment and since the tokens always stay the same they also get a head start. That isn't good, they should have a small advantage but not immediately be on top.


    I have several hard earned pieces of PvP Gear just rotting in my bank because I wasn't around for 2 years before. So my Rank is rather low. However rank is "Required" to use the gear. However to get said rank you need to win and grind up to some times 600+ matches. Now imagine every new patch there is a new set of PvE gear as a new player and you can't even wear it until you do 600 dungeons. Nobody would play the game.

    Please raise the token requirement for PvP gear and remove the Rank Requirement. Rank already makes you better in PvP by giving you stats and better abilities.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-12-2015 at 09:35 AM.

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    'no'

    I grinded forever on wolves den, than frontlines. Grind seal rock. Don't like it quit. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterRuseman View Post
    'no'

    I grinded forever on wolves den, than frontlines. Grind seal rock. Don't like it quit. Simple as that.
    Just because you dealt with a crappy system doesn't mean we should always for eternity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Just because you dealt with a crappy system doesn't mean we should always for eternity.
    Yes I do, sorry I'm not inept and don't require hand me outs or carries. It's already simple as it is, if you don't enjoy grinding seal rock for your rank. Don't play, don't get the rewards. I play pvp in this game because I enjoy it, the glamour is just an added bonus to it. I Understand you may not enjoy it, you just want the glamour and are expecting an easy way to get it, but that's not how it works. The ranks are our reward to use that gear. Ranks would mean nothing if everyone can just get the gear and bounce once they get it. q's would be longer, but that'll probably mean less baddies. OP and this one is probably one of the ones who don't read alliance chat and end up feeding the opposite teams. lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterRuseman View Post
    Yes I do, sorry I'm not inept and don't require hand me outs or carries. It's already simple as it is, if you don't enjoy grinding seal rock for your rank. Don't play, don't get the rewards. I play pvp in this game because I enjoy it, the glamour is just an added bonus to it. I Understand you may not enjoy it, you just want the glamour and are expecting an easy way to get it, but that's not how it works. The ranks are our reward to use that gear. Ranks would mean nothing if everyone can just get the gear and bounce once they get it. q's would be longer, but that'll probably mean less baddies. OP and this one is probably one of the ones who don't read alliance chat and end up feeding the opposite teams. lmao.
    I don't really consider a mindless and pointless Grind "Easy" or "Hard".

    More like "Frustrating" and "Pointless". I would rather earn rank by doing objectives and actually doing things in PvP that give me points and have it mean something not based on "Armor". I would rather have mounts, titles, skills. However, when its put on the armor it makes it pretty redundant.

    You can grind it out by making two premades and letting them destroy you over and over and the same to them. Which is how some Rank 50s got their rank in the first place.

    I don't appreciate you "name-calling and bullying" others either, people on the forums should not be afraid to voice opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    It's pretty much impossible to win-trade in FL due to the sheer amount of people required who all have to be in the correct GCs.

    Also, there ARE mounts and titles achieved by completing PVP objectives (victory, kills, node kills and tomelith occupation to name a few). The only thing you don't get is the rank 50 gear, and achieving rank 50 is easy if, as many in this thread have pointed out, you actually ENJOY PVP and aren't just interested in being "rewarded" for doing it.

    You don't need a PhD to comprehend this, mate. PVP gear is mostly meant as a glamour badge to showcase to the world that hey, that player is pretty dedicated to PVP. Allowing players who don't commit the time to PVP in that manner to wear the same gear is disingenuous.
    Untrue, I play a big server and I was invited to it once but I consider such things "exploiting".

    They even bragged about it too. This was around level 50 though, when people treated PvP like a secret club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I don't really consider a mindless and pointless Grind "Easy" or "Hard".

    More like "Frustrating" and "Pointless". I would rather earn rank by doing objectives and actually doing things in PvP that give me points and have it mean something not based on "Armor". I would rather have mounts, titles, skills. However, when its put on the armor it makes it pretty redundant.

    You can grind it out by making two premades and letting them destroy you over and over and the same to them. Which is how some Rank 50s got their rank in the first place.

    I don't appreciate you "name-calling and bullying" others either, people on the forums should not be afraid to voice opinions.
    >I would rather have mounts, titles, skills.
    They do give this and guess what? You have to grind for it as well. This is a MMO, which basically means grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterRuseman View Post
    'no'

    I grinded forever on wolves den, than frontlines. Grind seal rock. Don't like it quit. Simple as that.
    inb4 someone tells you to suck it up and grind. . .

    #ImRank50
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    No other way than to keep doing matches if you truly care.

    Or you can just wait until they remove rank requirement like they did with the previous i100-110 PvP gear

    At most they should have exp boost, but with diminishing returns as you rank up.
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    Last edited by myahele; 09-12-2015 at 10:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
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    Oh too bad it's void for JP server. They keep spamming Frontline all day (Maybe around noon to late night) and as far as I know they grind for Field Commander's Set or PvP Rank (or Wolf Mark).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    Oh too bad it's void for JP server. They keep spamming Frontline all day (Maybe around noon to late night) and as far as I know they grind for Field Commander's Set or PvP Rank (or Wolf Mark).
    I looked at their PvP and a lot of them want experience raised as well.

    It is a terrible system.
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