Explain why I can't use my PvP Rewards?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Rank is PvP level. You need rank to wear PvP armor. What is there to not understand. You can use it in PvE, but it doesn't mean they're better. It's the same principle as PvE gear (tomestone vs dungeon drops) where they have different stat budgeting. Some PvP pieces are straight up worse than the PvE counterpart at the same ilvl.

Yet they don't reward Wolf Marks for Dungeons, so no they aren't working for them to be the same. No one who wants good matches in PvP even like the eso rewards because it gets in the way of people actually giving a damn for the mode.

You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.

[Stormrider]

Safe to ignore.

Move along nothing to see here. Just someone who wants free glamors. They have complained on the pvp board and no one takes it serious. They don't post from main character. Because I can't believe anyone with Arcanist 60 thaum 26 and conj 20 could be expected to be taken seriously. Oh forgot pugilist 1. They have put little effort into ranking up.

They are right about one thing though, they could make it so the vendor refuses to sell. So marks fall to the floor so you wont be taunted by the oh my glamours. The system actually protects your marks and lets you buy. Unlike lets name two, Grand Company and Advanced marks.

About all people should complain about is the horrible gating of the que. Someone has done the math and it is not that much effort to get to rank. It is though a pain to sit in 30 min ques meaning a two hour play time could net you three games or less. Which in turn feels unfair given that if you put 2 hours into anything you should be able to net some better reward then just under 700 xp per two hours. The system is flawed but not in the way they project.

[UltimateAoe2]

Stop whining and grind it out like the rest of us.


Jeez man, seriously.
PVP has the best glamor, of course.

and OF COURSE it's obviously gated by a big rank requirement. Being able to wear the PVP gear IS your reward for grinding out Rank 50.



So, get to it. I'm not even max rank, and I'm not complaining. The gear is an incentive to grind it out. Don't care how long it'll take.
EDIT:

PVP Gear doesn't benefit you in PVP a whole lot. It's how you play your Job correctly in there, and not MINDLESSLY DPSing for no reason.

[Black_Rose]

You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.

because it is practically useless now and has no further meaning to pvp since the new pve equipment came out? it is nothing more than a means to glamour.

PvP Gear just gives players an edge over others. Which is probably why they want to keep their unfair advantage because they don't want to PvP fairly.

in wich way does it give an edge over others when the pvp ilvl of seal rock is currently capped at 150.morale doesn't change that ilvl cap, aswell as materia.

you have no idea what you're talking about, am i right?

[Nalien]

PvP Gear just gives players an edge over others. Which is probably why they want to keep their unfair advantage because they don't want to PvP fairly.

Why do people keep spouting this nonsense?

PvP gear does not give you a significant edge. In Frontlines is does absolutely nothing. In Wolves' Den it'll either let you pretend you have i210, or (and this is much more likely) it'll do absolutely nothing. I'm sure they'll add an uncapped option, like they have for Wolves' Den, but I'm also sure they'll have a capped option (like the i80 cap one) and that will be the competitive scene in Wolves' Den.

Morale is a do-nothing stat. PvP gear does nothing, it is solely an ill-conceived trophy piece.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

because it is practically useless now and has no further meaning to pvp since the new pve equipment came out? it is nothing more than a means to glamour.



in wich way does it give an edge over others when the pvp ilvl of seal rock is currently capped at 150.morale doesn't change that ilvl cap, aswell as materia.

you have no idea what you're talking about, am i right?

I guess they changed it. So its completely useless now.

[RiceisNice]

You need rank to wear level 50 armor? Nope. It was removed, and hopefully this is too soon.

If you don't want to put in the effort to equip pvp gear, then stop dancing around it and say so rather than dancing around making arguments that only holds water in the form of semantics.

I think your thinking is silly and archaic and you lost the argument. =P

You're really falling onto those sort of arguments now? Although we're arguing circles at this point because honestly, I can say the same for you that you just want to be lazy and not work toward PvP rewards.

Nothing you say makes a lick of sense since its comparing to two different things. Since we are talking about different things why can't we bring other games into this?

You honestly want to bring other games into this, WoW doesn't let you equip arena gear unless, again, you had the proper arena rating. Neither does Elsword even though their ranking requirements is an absolute joke. Possibly more examples from other MMO if I actually played beyond those two.

They don't need to reward wolf marks in dungeons because you can use PvE gear in PvP. PvP Gear just gives players an edge over others. Which is probably why they want to keep their unfair advantage because they don't want to PvP fairly.

And for the record, PvP gear doesn't give you an edge in PvP. Everything level syncs at i150 and morale/materia slots do jack shite in frontlines.

Not much effort = 300-600 matches.

That's a really wide-ass estimate. I have 300 effective matches and I'm already rank 41.

[Black_Rose]

So PvP/PvE gear has no difference really except secondary stats, which PvP gear is clearly better at. It is still an edge.

and in which way exactly are they better?

[Ashkendor]

So PvP/PvE gear has no difference really except secondary stats, which PvP gear is clearly better at. It is still an edge.

How does PvP gear have an edge over PvE gear when it's i180 and the maximum (reasonably attainable for most) level of PvE gear is i200? The secondary stat allocation in no way makes up for the deficit in primary stats that you'd have by using i180 gear.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

GRRR ARRGG you have never even had the gear on to see the stat difference in frontlines.

I'm going straight from what the other posters told me.