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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    and in which way exactly are they better?
    If you are a crazy min maxer you can get the odd +1 crit or +1 det out of the morale ilvl sync. It is literally plus 1. But some of the gear has acc on it now which would have taken away a secondary stat so you can find better pieces without accuracy.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Better stat placement on almost all pieces of gear. Gear has the most meaningful stats.

    Some of the DPS pieces have the most critical chance out of all pieces of gear.
    GRRR ARRGG you have never even had the gear on to see the stat difference in frontlines.
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  3. #53
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If both pieces are scaled down to ilvl 150. They will be scaled down but the secondary stat min/max will still be better. In the other places where morale works and its scaled up to ilvl 210 its better overall then Alexander Gear because nobody has a full set of Alexander gear. From what i've read from angry posters. =P
    Not all the pieces have good secondary stats. Like the ranged PvP top is saturated with skill speed, and the law version is det/crit. There's also no meaningful content that morale works in, and it's up for debate if it even works in wolves den in 3.1 for their adjustments.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    In the other places where morale works and its scaled up to ilvl 210 its better overall then Alexander Gear because nobody has a full set of Alexander gear. From what i've read from angry posters. =P
    Those places do not exist, and probably never will in a significant way. We're getting Lv60 Wolves' Den, where this might be relevant, but like I said, they will have a capped version where once again Morale does nothing, because having gear provide an edge in PvP is nonsense.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-13-2015 at 08:28 AM.

  5. #55
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    Mister Ruseman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Just because you dealt with a crappy system doesn't mean we should always for eternity.
    Yes I do, sorry I'm not inept and don't require hand me outs or carries. It's already simple as it is, if you don't enjoy grinding seal rock for your rank. Don't play, don't get the rewards. I play pvp in this game because I enjoy it, the glamour is just an added bonus to it. I Understand you may not enjoy it, you just want the glamour and are expecting an easy way to get it, but that's not how it works. The ranks are our reward to use that gear. Ranks would mean nothing if everyone can just get the gear and bounce once they get it. q's would be longer, but that'll probably mean less baddies. OP and this one is probably one of the ones who don't read alliance chat and end up feeding the opposite teams. lmao.
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  6. #56
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterRuseman View Post
    Yes I do, sorry I'm not inept and don't require hand me outs or carries. It's already simple as it is, if you don't enjoy grinding seal rock for your rank. Don't play, don't get the rewards. I play pvp in this game because I enjoy it, the glamour is just an added bonus to it. I Understand you may not enjoy it, you just want the glamour and are expecting an easy way to get it, but that's not how it works. The ranks are our reward to use that gear. Ranks would mean nothing if everyone can just get the gear and bounce once they get it. q's would be longer, but that'll probably mean less baddies. OP and this one is probably one of the ones who don't read alliance chat and end up feeding the opposite teams. lmao.
    I don't really consider a mindless and pointless Grind "Easy" or "Hard".

    More like "Frustrating" and "Pointless". I would rather earn rank by doing objectives and actually doing things in PvP that give me points and have it mean something not based on "Armor". I would rather have mounts, titles, skills. However, when its put on the armor it makes it pretty redundant.

    You can grind it out by making two premades and letting them destroy you over and over and the same to them. Which is how some Rank 50s got their rank in the first place.

    I don't appreciate you "name-calling and bullying" others either, people on the forums should not be afraid to voice opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    It's pretty much impossible to win-trade in FL due to the sheer amount of people required who all have to be in the correct GCs.

    Also, there ARE mounts and titles achieved by completing PVP objectives (victory, kills, node kills and tomelith occupation to name a few). The only thing you don't get is the rank 50 gear, and achieving rank 50 is easy if, as many in this thread have pointed out, you actually ENJOY PVP and aren't just interested in being "rewarded" for doing it.

    You don't need a PhD to comprehend this, mate. PVP gear is mostly meant as a glamour badge to showcase to the world that hey, that player is pretty dedicated to PVP. Allowing players who don't commit the time to PVP in that manner to wear the same gear is disingenuous.
    Untrue, I play a big server and I was invited to it once but I consider such things "exploiting".

    They even bragged about it too. This was around level 50 though, when people treated PvP like a secret club.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 09-14-2015 at 02:28 AM.

  7. #57
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    It's pretty much impossible to win-trade in FL due to the sheer amount of people required who all have to be in the correct GCs.

    Also, there ARE mounts and titles achieved by completing PVP objectives (victory, kills, node kills and tomelith occupation to name a few). The only thing you don't get is the rank 50 gear, and achieving rank 50 is easy if, as many in this thread have pointed out, you actually ENJOY PVP and aren't just interested in being "rewarded" for doing it.

    You don't need a PhD to comprehend this, mate. PVP gear is mostly meant as a glamour badge to showcase to the world that hey, that player is pretty dedicated to PVP. Allowing players who don't commit the time to PVP in that manner to wear the same gear is disingenuous.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I don't really consider a mindless and pointless Grind "Easy" or "Hard".

    More like "Frustrating" and "Pointless". I would rather earn rank by doing objectives and actually doing things in PvP that give me points and have it mean something not based on "Armor". I would rather have mounts, titles, skills. However, when its put on the armor it makes it pretty redundant.

    You can grind it out by making two premades and letting them destroy you over and over and the same to them. Which is how some Rank 50s got their rank in the first place.

    I don't appreciate you "name-calling and bullying" others either, people on the forums should not be afraid to voice opinions.
    >I would rather have mounts, titles, skills.
    They do give this and guess what? You have to grind for it as well. This is a MMO, which basically means grind.
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